Ask HN: How correct are geohot's opinions on CRUD developers?

Re:Ask HN: How correct are geohot's opinions on CRUD develop... by phendrenad2 on Monday November 16, 2020 @02:09AM (#25108971)

He's wrong. There's no such thing as a CRUD developer. No one would pay someone just to make essentially GUIs for the database tables. Also CRUD is ancient history, webapps are all interactive react now. CSS is hard. Also AI-generated CRUD or even CSS would be hilarious, I want to see that.

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Re:Ask HN: How correct are geohot's opinions on CRUD develop... by arthtyagi on Monday November 16, 2020 @02:15AM (#25109007)

Another thing though, web apps are not all interactive React now. That's falsified information. There are multiple cases where webapps aren't even backed by React.

Webapps are still being built in CRUD frameworks.

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Re:Ask HN: How correct are geohot's opinions on CRUD develop... by phendrenad2 on Monday November 16, 2020 @11:27AM (#25113557)

Yes, but no one is hired to just make CRUD apps. Those are like 10% of the work that needs to be done to maintain a business. Just throwing in authorization/authentication provides enough "house rules" (business-specific rules) that AI would have trouble with it.

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Re:Ask HN: How correct are geohot's opinions on CRUD develop... by arthtyagi on Monday November 16, 2020 @12:01PM (#25114016)

Yeah that's definitely true. No one just makes CRUD apps.

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Re:Ask HN: How correct are geohot's opinions on CRUD develop... by trinovantes on Monday November 16, 2020 @04:04AM (#25109643)

GPT3 has some impressive results with generated code [1]. I don't think it's production ready but it seems to have potential to one day replace a room of frontend devs with just 1 dev to clean up the code.

[1] https://twitter.com/sharifshameem/status/1282676454690451457...

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Re:Ask HN: How correct are geohot's opinions on CRUD develop... by phendrenad2 on Monday November 16, 2020 @11:25AM (#25113521)

It's honestly really pathetic IMHO. https://twitter.com/sharifshameem/status/1282693205813628929...

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Re:Ask HN: How correct are geohot's opinions on CRUD develop... by arthtyagi on Monday November 16, 2020 @02:13AM (#25108994)

That would actually be a pretty fun project to build, AI generated CSS, HTML and MVC.

What he meant by CRUD devs was, developers whose job is just to build stuff like, a contact information page, or basically anything that does CRUD operations. He for some reason considers only `input->compute->output` as the correct paradigm which also aligns with his jalbreaking stuff and what he's doing at comma.ai now.

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Re:Ask HN: How correct are geohot's opinions on CRUD develop... by danjac on Monday November 16, 2020 @03:17AM (#25109355)

You write to and read from a data store? That's what CRUD is, and it predates web apps. It has zero to do with CSS or react or any other presentational technology.

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