Using Matrix to replace proprietary and centralized chat apps

Re:Using Matrix to replace proprietary and centralized chat ... by fishywang on Saturday November 14, 2020 @01:42PM (#25094486)

the old riot.im mobile clients does have the feature to tell you which of your contacts are already on matrix. the feature was said to be "coming" to the new client but not yet. not sure what's the real plan for it.

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Re:Using Matrix to replace proprietary and centralized chat ... by Arathorn on Saturday November 14, 2020 @03:36PM (#25095418)

We're in the process of adding it back into Element Android. It's still there on Element iOS. Totally agreed that the app should help you discover people to talk to, which is what we're doing.

If you're interested, https://github.com/vector-im/roadmap/issues/10 is the relevant issue on the public Element roadmap: https://github.com/vector-im/roadmap/projects/1

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Re:Using Matrix to replace proprietary and centralized chat ... by m4rtink on Sunday November 15, 2020 @09:11AM (#25101285)

It seems to me that people don't understand how morally wrong is to just give phone numbers of your friends (or even just some easily reversible hashes of those) to a third party for these contact matching schemes.

If someone gives me their phone number I would find it to be extremely rude to them if I just pass it to some third party without their consent. And most people likely do in normal life:

"Hey Bob, can I give your phone number to Alice ? She would like to buy that furniture you re selling."

Yep people will just give their full phonebook to a third party so they can see who else is one the service (and betrayed their thrust by giving it their phone number!). I really hope this is just UX dark patterns, where the apps ask for phone book access but don't explicitly tell users how they are doing this matching. Users doing this willingly would be much worse...

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