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Re:They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 (1955) by RestlessMind on Friday November 13, 2020 @02:43PM (#25086513)
Left denies basic facts about:

1. Trump's legitimate election in 2016 - see all the hysterical reactions like "Not my president" protests or urging faithless elector to vote for anyone else but trump route or "Russia-gate" (left's Benghazi?) or the impeachment farce. (I don't think I need to provide any citations here).

2. Illegal immigration - left doesn't acknowledge that this is a problem. And then you see left's contradictory messaging ("illegal immigration has slowed down to a trickle") to thousands of children showing up on our borders. Couple that with ridiculous demands like "Abolish the ICE" or calling Obama the "Deporter in Chief". Concrete example of a prominent leftist: https://www.newsweek.com/aoc-abolish-ice-hysterectomy-whistl...

3. Economics: there is a broad agreement among the economists (including someone like Krugman) that rent control doesn't work. Yet you keep seeing repeated attempts from the left. Latest example: CA Prop 21.

Re:They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 (1955) by lisper on Friday November 13, 2020 @02:51PM (#25086600)
> Illegal immigration - left doesn't acknowledge that this is a problem

It certainly does. That's why the left supports policies like DACA.

The disagreement is not about whether or not illegal immigration is a problem. The disagreement is very much about what the right way to fix the problem is, which is well within the bounds of legitimate policy disagreement.

> rent control doesn't work

Of course it does. Rent control keeps rents from going up. Whether or not this is desirable, or whether it has undesirable ancillary effects that outweigh the benefits, is again the subject of legitimate disagreement over policy.

Re:They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 (1955) by augustt on Friday November 13, 2020 @02:47PM (#25086551)
Read the Ukraine transcript and say it wasn't a flagrant abuse of power with a straight face.
Re:They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 (1955) by whateveracct on Friday November 13, 2020 @02:53PM (#25086621)
The transcript combined with the many House testimonies.

It amazes me that because the Senate didn't convict or even have a trial (for political self-preservation alone), people just think it's a farce.

Re:They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 (1955) by whateveracct on Friday November 13, 2020 @02:51PM (#25086604)
> impeachment farce. (I don't think I need to provide any citations here).

You could just watch the House testimony? Trump clearly tried to use the United States' leverage to get another country's leader to create bad press for the man who he saw as his biggest threat to the re-election.

Imagine if nobody blew the whistle and the Ukrainian president did what Trump wanted. Trump could've beaten Biden off the back of that. Off the back of abuse of power!