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Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by ChuckNorris89 on Friday November 13, 2020 @05:32AM (#25080944)
Does Apple really have literally all telemetry disabled by default, out of the box, on all devices? Is there an independent audit proving that? If so, I would buy all their products in an instant.

Then how do they know what to fix/improve without that? I can't imagine average iOS/OSX users, who aren't devs, are writing and submitting detailed bug/crash reports on a regular basis.

Or is it just bias and personal preference where "I don't mind Apple collecting my telemetry because I like Apple but Microsoft collecting my telemetry is evil because I hate Microsoft"?

I don't have a dog in this fight but don't trust any for-profit company when it comes to privacy, no matter how good their PR is on the matter, especially since both of them(and most SV companies) were part of the NSA Prism bulk collection program[0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)

Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by a_c_s on Friday November 13, 2020 @09:12AM (#25082294)
Apple gives you the option to turn telemetry on/off as part of the machine setup & OS upgrade process. This option is explained in simple english and not buried in the legalese.
Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by ChuckNorris89 on Friday November 13, 2020 @09:34AM (#25082533)
The question is, is the telemetry really off completely on mac or either?

Is there any guarantee that Apple gets zero bytes of your data or do we just take their word for it because their products are shiny and cool?

Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by zepto on Friday November 13, 2020 @09:57AM (#25082852)
Those questions apply to literally every computer.

https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=5706

Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by yencabulator on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @03:38PM (#25142150)
No hacker would trust Apple, or an independent audit, to make such a claim anyway.