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Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by deepstack on Friday November 13, 2020 @03:54AM (#25080440)
Apple has NOT being the same after steve is gone. It is MS 2.0 now!

With better design and products of course, none the less the business practices are the same. Much this is enforced by the current economic and political system.

Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by scns on Friday November 13, 2020 @07:47AM (#25081590)
Yep, Steve Blank wrote an article analysing the situation in 2016: https://www.inc.com/steve-blank/tim-cook-steve-ballmer-visio...
Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by xtracto on Friday November 13, 2020 @10:37AM (#25083329)
That was a really good read, it really explains what has been happening to Apple in its post-Jobs life.
Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by fakedang on Friday November 13, 2020 @04:00AM (#25080474)
Not MS. MS today is much less into the anti-user, anti-privacy, rentseeking game, compared to Apple or Google. Apple today is M$ 2.0, as much as people here hate that trope.
Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by bserge on Friday November 13, 2020 @04:22AM (#25080594)
Only because their attempts at copying Apple and Google fail miserably.

Otherwise, here's Windows 10, have it for free, hell, here's Linux on Windows, just stay on the OS, buy apps on the Store and see these ads! Also give us telemetry.

Side note: no one cares, but I finally tracked down the cause of a really annoying bug, hibernation due to "thermal event" (CPU "overheating") in Windows 10: It's because of using dynamic disks in mirror mode (perhaps in other modes, as well). Makes Windows 10 hibernate randomly. Converted disks back to basic, no problems. Took me a long freaking time to finally solve this.

Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by e_proxus on Friday November 13, 2020 @04:14AM (#25080548)
The privacy-invasive tracking in Windows 10 is much more obnoxious and tricky to workaround (since it is spread out and hard/impossible to disable). This tracking in macOS is at least under the guise of security whereas the Windows tracking is pure telemetry.
Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by fakedang on Friday November 13, 2020 @04:39AM (#25080680)
And you can disable that tracking on setup /installation.
Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by e_proxus on Friday November 13, 2020 @04:46AM (#25080710)
Not all in one place, and not everything. See for example https://superuser.com/a/1512224
Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by deepstack on Friday November 13, 2020 @04:15AM (#25080552)
MS is still the same, they just matured a bit. They just have to behave better in the open source community to attract the developers. I don't believe for a second that they are doing it for the benefit of information sovereignty or the development of tech and software.

Their backdoor put a really bad taste in my mouth. Will try to avoid them if I can.

Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by indigochill on Friday November 13, 2020 @04:33AM (#25080647)
> I don't believe for a second that they are doing it for the benefit of information sovereignty or the development of tech and software.

They're doing it because the cloud is Linux and they need to get into the cloud because Nadella's vision for the MS OS going forward is a unified system that spans PCs, phones, tablets, IoT, everything, not just a desktop OS.

Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by dvfjsdhgfv on Friday November 13, 2020 @04:15AM (#25080554)
> much less

Define "much". Windows 10 is a mind-boggling privacy invasion. It's just the other offenders attract more attention, that's all.

Re:Your Computer Isn't Yours by fakedang on Friday November 13, 2020 @04:39AM (#25080675)
How about disable all privacy features on setup/installation? It's far easier than the amount of hoops one has to go through for Google.