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Re:Zuckerberg defends not suspending ex-Trump aide Bannon fr... by AaronFriel on Thursday November 12, 2020 @07:47PM (#25077420)
We don't need to tear down the First Amendment, but our society does somewhat depend on civil society rejecting and not amplifying dangerous, uncivil, undemocratic ideas.

I think the freedom of speech Bannon has is fine. He's welcome to make whatever calls he wants - though I do wonder if he may have strayed from merely "uncivil" into "incitement".

But Facebook, Twitter, the New York Times... they don't need to amplify it. He is not entitled to their audiences too.

Re:Zuckerberg defends not suspending ex-Trump aide Bannon fr... by peteretep on Thursday November 12, 2020 @07:56PM (#25077487)
> but our society does somewhat depend on civil society rejecting and not amplifying dangerous, uncivil, undemocratic ideas

I would argue that this is exactly what legal and democratic systems that work but that don’t give such primacy to 1FA offer.

Re:Zuckerberg defends not suspending ex-Trump aide Bannon fr... by loopz on Friday November 13, 2020 @03:45AM (#25080384)
Other democratic countries are not that far behind in ideology. There is however more wiggle room with more parties in play.
Re:Zuckerberg defends not suspending ex-Trump aide Bannon fr... by wolco2 on Thursday November 12, 2020 @08:02PM (#25077551)
The amplifying point has been spreading in discussions.

Facebook, twitter must not amplify one content over another or it loses it's neutral status. If it begins make decisions based on what it prefers content wise it would lose a common carrier status and should be regulated like those other entities and not be treated as neutrual platform.

The New York Times is a newspaper and doesn't belong.

Re:Zuckerberg defends not suspending ex-Trump aide Bannon fr... by triceratops on Friday November 13, 2020 @01:31AM (#25079579)
> If it begins make decisions based on what it prefers content wise it would lose a common carrier status

It can't lose what it never had to begin with. Information services post Section 230 have 0 obligation to be "neutral". You should read the law instead of listening to Internet commentators' fantasies and wishlists of "neutrality" and "censorship makes you a publisher". This is all bullcrap.

Re:Zuckerberg defends not suspending ex-Trump aide Bannon fr... by jakelazaroff on Thursday November 12, 2020 @08:19PM (#25077683)
There is no legal basis for this. Facebook and Twitter are explicitly permitted to amplify or suppress whatever content they wish.
Re:Zuckerberg defends not suspending ex-Trump aide Bannon fr... by loopz on Friday November 13, 2020 @03:47AM (#25080394)
Maybe there should be!
Re:Zuckerberg defends not suspending ex-Trump aide Bannon fr... by jakelazaroff on Friday November 13, 2020 @10:08AM (#25083006)
I disagree!
Re:Zuckerberg defends not suspending ex-Trump aide Bannon fr... by loopz on Friday November 13, 2020 @10:43AM (#25083398)
Even if their algorithms threaten to destabilize society by amplification? Bear in mind these platforms come with many forms of moderation already.

So I believe we're mostly talking about a spectrum of what mechanisms there are and their consequences. Ie. is it OK for the entire planet to bully anyone in public until they lose everything? This is actually hard to prevent, if no mechanisms to do so are in place, while communication is as "free" as possible.

Re:Zuckerberg defends not suspending ex-Trump aide Bannon fr... by jakelazaroff on Friday November 13, 2020 @11:26AM (#25083899)
Ultimately, if a platform is big enough that its policies have society-destabilizing consequences, I would much prefer to see it broken up than reined in. Benevolent dictators are still dictators.