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Re:Sweden Covid-19 Update by tsimionescu on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:41PM (#25074679)
You're looking at it the other way around: the stats are huge DESPITE the unprecedented lockdowns. If we didn't have lockdowns, the numbers would have been astronomical.

We know this because we have seen how things have unfolded in places like Northern Italy and Iran - the hospital system is quickly overwhelmed, and then people start dying by the dozens in each hospital, because they simply can't get any kind of care anymore.

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Re:Sweden Covid-19 Update by josephcsible on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:44PM (#25074729)
> the stats are huge DESPITE the unprecedented lockdowns

Another possible interpretation of this is that lockdowns don't really help much.

> We know this because we have seen how things have unfolded in places like Northern Italy and Iran

I thought those places did have lockdowns.

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Re:Sweden Covid-19 Update by tsimionescu on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:59PM (#25074946)
They were hit very early, and the lockdowns came far later.

Famously, the Iranian health minister was on TV announcing that the country doesn't need to take special Covid19 measure while visibly sweating because of the fever caused by his Covid19 infection.

If you want positive proof that lockdowns work, the absolute best example is Vietnam: a tiny country of 100 million people which has experienced 1123 total infections so far, with 37 deaths.

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Re:Sweden Covid-19 Update by greedo on Thursday November 12, 2020 @04:10PM (#25075099)
Italy didn't have lockdowns until the spread was too extensive. Iran simply lied about what was going on for the majority of the year.
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