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Re:macOS Big Sur by qz2 on Thursday November 12, 2020 @01:37PM (#25073110)
This was a complete deal breaker for me. Half the internet is unusable without a decent ad blocking implementation these days and a decent one is virtually impossible with the charred remains of the API they left behind.

This was actually one of the (many) things that motivated me to migrate away from OSX.

Re:macOS Big Sur by jkelleyrtp on Thursday November 12, 2020 @01:41PM (#25073170)
You're not going to find the same AdBlockers that Chrome/FF have, but you will find AdBlockers that _work_. I agree that ads make the web unusable, but I've been content with the various blockers I've tried on Safari, and there's more every day. I use ABP, but 1Blocker and Wipr look good, and Safari's got the first 30% of privacy/adblocking taken care of with their various privacy and reader features.
Re:macOS Big Sur by qz2 on Thursday November 12, 2020 @01:44PM (#25073221)
1Blocker is a rip off. Wipr doesn't work properly. ABP lets a lot of ads through. There is nothing that approaches uBlock at all.
Re:macOS Big Sur by ucha on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:11PM (#25073614)
I'm using AdGuard and it covers pretty much everything and is very customizable, including the annoying "accept cookies" banners that we have in Europe.
Re:macOS Big Sur by therealmarv on Thursday November 12, 2020 @01:58PM (#25073437)
try Adguard. It's the best one for this Apple interface for adblocking.
Re:macOS Big Sur by saagarjha on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:06PM (#25073550)
…which requires an Electron app to constantly be running for it to really work. Not great.
Re:macOS Big Sur by twistiti on Thursday November 12, 2020 @05:17PM (#25075922)
Untrue in my understanding.

The Electron app needs to run to set options or to force filters update, not the rest of the time. It's still an annoyance but it's better than nothing.

Re:macOS Big Sur by saagarjha on Thursday November 12, 2020 @05:24PM (#25076013)
Changing the filters (e.g. by selecting a new element) requires the app to be running. Or, at least, it did when I stopped using it.
Re:macOS Big Sur by twistiti on Thursday November 12, 2020 @06:34PM (#25076810)
Correct. I understand in that case.

I would love for uBlock to find a workaround.

Re:macOS Big Sur by aledthemathguy on Thursday November 12, 2020 @04:01PM (#25074981)
why does it work like this in macos? (meaning - it seems to be running an outside process to block ads, unlike in Chrome where the process is internal to the browser, is this correct?

as a windows user i was puzzled by this when installing adguard

Re:macOS Big Sur by saagarjha on Thursday November 12, 2020 @04:35PM (#25075410)
It doesn't, the Adguard developers just chose to write their app in such a way that their main app (which is an Electron app) needs to be in the loop for everything.
Re:macOS Big Sur by mthoms on Thursday November 12, 2020 @06:28PM (#25076746)
Actually it's true - Adguard needs to run as a standalone process that lives in the menu bar in order to work properly with Safari. This permanent process does appear to be Electron based.

My guess is that it's engineered like this to simplify their code base(s) between their various free plugins and their paid "Adguard for Mac" and "Adguard for Windows" apps.

Re:macOS Big Sur by srgpqt on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:08PM (#25074260)
No problems with Wipr here, at all..
Re:macOS Big Sur by tpush on Thursday November 12, 2020 @01:51PM (#25073342)
> Wipr doesn't work properly.

How does it not work properly? Been using it and am pretty satisfied so far.

Re:macOS Big Sur by xodice on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:15PM (#25074335)
Wipr works outstanding for me on both iOS and macOS.
Re:macOS Big Sur by qz2 on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:24PM (#25074452)
Still get pop unders on both.
Re:macOS Big Sur by r00fus on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:47PM (#25074766)
Where? I get 0 popus or popunders and I use wipr and no other adblockers.
Re:macOS Big Sur by qz2 on Thursday November 12, 2020 @04:06PM (#25075051)
Try an average torrent site.
Re:macOS Big Sur by johns on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:08PM (#25073586)
Ghostery seems to work fine
Re:macOS Big Sur by konart on Thursday November 12, 2020 @04:16PM (#25075166)
People jumped off Ghostery long time ago. Maybe things have changed since the whole Cliqz story
Re:macOS Big Sur by bredren on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:00PM (#25073460)
Consider setting up a pihole locally or on a vps.
Re:macOS Big Sur by josephcsible on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:07PM (#25073569)
This isn't that effective anymore. A lot of sites now proxy their ads through their own Web server for the express purpose of making them harder to block. The only way to effectively block these, without something horribly draconian like breaking TLS, is a browser extension.
Re:macOS Big Sur by bredren on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:33PM (#25074568)
I wonder if the newly enabled safari extension capabilities paired with pihole largely cover for what is missing from what Chrome can do.
Re:macOS Big Sur by reaperducer on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:51PM (#25074068)
for the express[ed] purpose

This doesn't mean what you think it means. What you wrote means that web sites put text on their pages stating, "We're proxying our ads so you can't block them, nanny nanny boo boo!"

You probably mean "specific" purpose.

More to the point, this isn't new. We were doing this on web sites at least as far back as the early 2000's.

Re:macOS Big Sur by cshimmin on Thursday November 12, 2020 @04:01PM (#25074976)
Uh, no GP's usage was fine. Take Collins dictionary: "If you refer to an express intention or purpose, you are emphasizing that it is a deliberate and specific one that you have before you do something".

Perhaps you are thinking of the term "express written consent", but there it's the word "written" that means it was, well, written.

Re:macOS Big Sur by minitech on Thursday November 12, 2020 @05:55PM (#25076362)
Yeah, I guess if you insert the incorrect [ed], it becomes incorrect.
Re:macOS Big Sur by spurgu on Thursday November 12, 2020 @04:57PM (#25075649)
Or NextDNS.io if you trust them. I do and it's super convenient, both on desktop and mobile.