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Re:Screw the Mars hype. Here's why we should move to Venus by every on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @10:56PM (#25066265)
Humans will not "live" anywhere in the solar system other than on the earth where we evolved. We may "survive" temporarily elsewhere, like on the ISS, but we will never "live" there. Earth is our only abode...
Re:Screw the Mars hype. Here's why we should move to Venus by every on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @11:48PM (#25066556)
Down votes? Really? Space is perfectly analogous to the ocean. We can put on a mask, fins and a SCUBA and swim about effortlessly. But do we "live" in the ocean? No, we only temporarily "survive" there due to technology. Evolutionarily we left the ocean behind billions of years ago. We can never again live in the ocean even if we build a colony on the bottom of the Mariana Trench. It will simply be a technological "survival" device and nothing more. And would anyone choose to explore the Trench with actual humans? Of course not. That's what robots are for. And the same goes for space...
Re:Screw the Mars hype. Here's why we should move to Venus by garmaine on Thursday November 12, 2020 @01:12AM (#25066994)
Because you clearly didn’t read the article, which covers how both Mars and Venus can be made to have stable habitable zones.
Re:Screw the Mars hype. Here's why we should move to Venus by imgabe on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @11:41PM (#25066517)
That will become a problem when an asteroid or supervolcano or any other unpreventable disaster comes along and makes Earth uninhabitable. We're going to have to find a way to live off of Earth if we want to continue to exist.
Re:Screw the Mars hype. Here's why we should move to Venus by every on Thursday November 12, 2020 @12:02AM (#25066627)
The earth has been a long series of disaster movies. Massive extinctions after massive extinctions. Why do you think we as a species should be exempt? Are we that special?
Re:Screw the Mars hype. Here's why we should move to Venus by imgabe on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:52AM (#25067512)
We have the capability to possibly avoid an extinction. Do you argue we should refrain from exercising it? That we should put forward anything less than our best effort at survival? Why? What do we gain by giving up without trying?
Re:Screw the Mars hype. Here's why we should move to Venus by CameronNemo on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:58PM (#25074940)
You can't hate people for trying... to survive... That is literally what all life does.
Re:Screw the Mars hype. Here's why we should move to Venus by falcor84 on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @11:45PM (#25066543)
Why?

People have successfully adapted to all kinds of unexpected habitats here on Earth. Isn't your argument the same as someone from 70,000 years ago saying "Africa is our only abode"?

Re:Screw the Mars hype. Here's why we should move to Venus by every on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @11:55PM (#25066589)
No, because wherever you went 70k years ago there would be an atmosphere you could breath, H2O to drink and things you could eat. And wherever you landed you would still be shielded from solar radiation and enjoy 1G gravity...
Re:Screw the Mars hype. Here's why we should move to Venus by falcor84 on Thursday November 12, 2020 @12:03PM (#25071861)
>atmosphere you could breath

There are peoples like the Sherpas who live in high places where others can't breathe easily. Apparently their ancestors genetically adapted to these habitats [0].

>H2O to drink There are peoples like the Bedouin whose whole way of living is based on dealing with the scarcity of water in the desert.

>enjoy 1G gravity

Well, you got me here. There are apparently slight differences on Earth, ranging from ~9.76 to ~9.83 m/s^2, but yes, other planets would be much different.

Anyway, I'm not saying it won't be very difficult for people to adapt, but I just don't see a good reason to say that extraterrestrial life won't ever be commonplace.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_adaptation_in_hu...