Introducing the next generation of Mac

Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by marta_morena_28 on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @05:47PM (#25053126)

Oh I am sure judging by how excellent MacBook Pros cool things, having passive cooling will make no difference at all. I mean, during summer I put my MacBook on a large ice block that I freeze over night, this way I can maintain acceptable build & development speeds during the day. Should work the same for the MacBook Air. No?

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by laksdjfkasljdf on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @07:24PM (#25054029)

It will be equally as hot, but quieter.

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by Osiris on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @05:11PM (#25052734)

So the Pro should be able to maintain higher clock speeds for longer, is the assumption?

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by ralph87 on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @05:42PM (#25053069)

The emphasis here being on the word "should". I wouldn't buy just yet until some third party has published a sustained load/heat test. Apple have sucked at this for quite some years now, it's folly to touch a MacBook for anything remotely compute-intensive

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by andromeduck on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @06:47PM (#25053681)

Only when you compare apples to oranges, but this is an apples to apples comparison. Same underlying silicon, almost identical configuration, different chassis. It's impossible for the Pro not to outperform the Air when the only substantial difference for performance is TDP and we have zero reason to believe that heat-pipe + fan would be outperform by passive cooling of all things.

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by marcolussetti on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @02:15AM (#25056193)

Agreed, the Pro's cooling should be better. However, I think it's worth waiting and seeing. There might not be that big of a difference in the end (e.g. both are uncharacteristically well designed and run fine; or conversely both are so badly thermally throttled that no serious intensive tasks can be performed) in which case other factors could end up being more significant.

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by colejohnson66 on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @07:13PM (#25053936)

Apple has always sucked when it came to cooling. The Apple /// and Lisa were plagued by “IC creep” where, due to heat expansion from inadequate cooling, the ICs would wiggle out of their sockets ever so slowly.

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by kjsthree on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @05:20PM (#25052833)

Yes, that is almost certainly the case. They didn’t mention clock speed at all though so we’ll have to wait for real-world tests.

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by minxomat on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @05:44PM (#25053085)

They have said exactly that multiple times in the presentation. Mini & MBP will maintain higher clock speeds indefinitely.

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by adwi on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @05:11PM (#25052728)

Depending on benchmarks sounds like another win for the MBA...

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by beamatronic on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @11:05PM (#25055401)

That's some serious doublespeak right there

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