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Re:One pollster’s explanation for why the polls got it wrong by tshaddox on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @04:37PM (#25052315)
A college degree sounds like a laughably low bar for being considered "elite." 27% of American adults have college degrees. In a state like Missouri which is presumably not considered a particularly liberal or Democratic or "elite" state, over 50% of adults have college degrees.
Re:One pollster’s explanation for why the polls got it wrong by orangecat on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @06:30PM (#25053539)
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ... I see 31% for the US and 28% for Missouri. Regardless, the key point is "almost everyone in your social circle".
Re:One pollster’s explanation for why the polls got it wrong by tshaddox on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @08:47PM (#25054674)
Oops, not sure where I found that Missouri figure, but it looks like you're right. Still, one quarter to one third of the population doesn't fit what I would remotely consider to be "elite." And why is "almost everyone in your social circle" relevant? I don't think people generally use the word "elite" to refer to the ability to make friends from among a specific third of the national population.
Re:One pollster’s explanation for why the polls got it wrong by orangecat on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @10:13PM (#25055123)
Still, one quarter to one third of the population doesn't fit what I would remotely consider to be "elite." And why is "almost everyone in your social circle" relevant?

It's one thing if you have a college degree and half of your acquaintances don't. It's another if you rarely have meaningful interactions with anyone who doesn't; in that case you're in a subculture that has very different experiences than the average American.

Re:One pollster’s explanation for why the polls got it wrong by tshaddox on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @11:44PM (#25055563)
Okay, I’m on board with “very different experiences than the average American,” but that’s not what “elite” means.
Re:One pollster’s explanation for why the polls got it wrong by free_rms on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @06:37PM (#25053606)
Another key point is that 31 and 28 are well short of 51.

What's the plan to get there?