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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by vbezhenar on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @04:07PM (#25051924)
It means that you need to find a vulnerability in bootloader and exploit it to break free from Apple secure garden. Linux works on ARM for years, so I'm sure that it won't be impossible to port it over, but whether enthusiasts will do it or not is another question, as you would need to write drivers for proprietary GPU and storage to make it useful.
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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by saagarjha on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @10:23PM (#25055171)
You can turn off secure boot.
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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by vbezhenar on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @07:45AM (#25057846)
I don't think so.
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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by saagarjha on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:34PM (#25060514)
You can, there’s a bputil command for it I believe.
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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by vbezhenar on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @01:50PM (#25061478)
Here's WWDC talk claiming that you can't: https://youtu.be/Hg9F1Qjv3iU?t=3772

I'm talking about ARM macs, not Intel ones.

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by saagarjha on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @02:01PM (#25061598)
That’s not really what I’d call a “WWDC talk”, but sure, it mentions that Apple won’t provide Boot Camp, and that they are running their OS demos using virtualization. I didn’t see a claim that they won’t let you reduce the boot security.
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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by vbezhenar on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @03:16PM (#25062491)
"We're not direct booting an alternate operating system, it's purely virtualization. Hypervisors can be very efficient, so the need to direct boot shouldn't really be a concern."

For me that quote means that they're not allowing booting any alternate operating system and they expect developers to use virtualization if other operating system is needed. I would be happy to be wrong about that.

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by saagarjha on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @03:25PM (#25062584)
I understood that as "we weren't booting something else in our demos, we were using virtualization" but not "we can't boot anything else". I am sure, however, that they would like you to use virtualization instead of direct booting.
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