Re:One pollster’s explanation for why the polls got it wrong
by _AzMoo on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @03:53PM
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Exit polls were historically used as a method of detecting election fraud, because they've always been very accurate. It's only the last few elections where we've seen such a large disparity in polling and actual results.
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Re:One pollster’s explanation for why the polls got it wrong
by macintux on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @04:14PM
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Is exit polling no longer working? All of the discussion I’ve seen seems to focus on polling in advance of the election.
Re:One pollster’s explanation for why the polls got it wrong
by 0xffff2 on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @04:24PM
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Exit polling was basically meaningless in this election because mail in votes were the deciding factor.
Re:One pollster’s explanation for why the polls got it wrong
by rootusrootus on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @05:03PM
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That is a good point. To the extent that vote-by-mail becomes the dominant choice, we won't be able to rely on exit polls as a check. So it becomes even more important that the other checks we have on the system remain in place.
Re:One pollster’s explanation for why the polls got it wrong
by nl on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @08:19PM
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The key problem with exit polls (in non-pandemic years) is that they are non-representative until the whole vote is collected and they can be re-weighed.
"exit polls are eventually weighted to match the final results, but that only happens after the election is over. On election night itself, the numbers are reweighted as more data becomes available, but what you’re seeing is still subject to a lot of uncertainty"
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/exit-polls-can-be-misle... has a good discussion.
Re:One pollster’s explanation for why the polls got it wrong
by _AzMoo on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @04:47PM
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Yeah, since about 2000 it's been shown to be really unreliable in the US. Heavily weighted towards democrats for much of the same reasons that makes normal polling unreliable now.
Re:One pollster’s explanation for why the polls got it wrong
by throwaway201103 on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @04:24PM
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Considering the trend for people to be socially canceled, scorned, and shamed for supporting the "wrong" candidate, yes I think exit polling (and all polling for that matter) are not working. People are much more likely to either decline to respond, or they will lie.
Re:One pollster’s explanation for why the polls got it wrong
by rootusrootus on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @05:04PM
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> or they will lie
Apparently that isn't a problem. Yet. But non-response is.
Re:One pollster’s explanation for why the polls got it wrong
by recursive on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @05:15PM
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I think mail-in ballots are a much bigger problem for exit polling than fear of being cancelled.
I cite no sources, just a hunch.
Re:One pollster’s explanation for why the polls got it wrong
by _AzMoo on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @11:15PM
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They are actually both problems. The fear of being "cancelled" due to poll responses is called the Bradley Effect and definitely does apply to exit polls: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect#Exit_polling