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Re:My experience as a poll worker in Pennsylvania by tptacek on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @02:50PM (#25050847)
This squares with my experience in Illinois after a couple of elections.

* As a security/integrity issue, the ballots themselves are much less scary than the pollbooks, which are what we use to match voters against the voting rolls.

* Everything's ultimately on paper; there are bar codes, which nobody loves, but they're auditable against the readable printed ballot.

* Most of the security is physical/human; for us, each polling station (a location can have several precincts and thus several stations, each a giant rolling metal box) is sealed using numbered plastic seals before the polls open and after they're closed, and everything is recorded redundantly and signed off on by the poll workers.

* A matching count at the close of polls is a big deal, a nightmare big deal; in Illinois, we can't just shrug off a missing ballot and say "nothing we can do about it"; in March, I had to stay 3 hours late while we resolved a similar issue (IIRC, a mis-recorded provisional). Most pollworkers in my experience are there for the money (I've never bothered cashing the check) and the threat that they won't get paid if they count doesn't match is extremely powerful.

* The local police are not allowed to monitor polling places, and the municipality of the polling place is usually confused about that; in Cook County, it's the County Sheriff's Department that has authority over polling places. Our cops were very friendly and responsive.

* The drama of every election is the the "string line" that defined the 100 foot "no electioneering" radius of the polling place; the entertainment you can count on each cycle is the candidate whose people religiously move their lawn signs inside the string line, and freak out when you remove them.

It's an interesting system that derives a lot of resiliency from extreme complexity and maximal human touch points --- Illinois elections will never do something with 1 person when the same thing could be done with 2 --- which is sort of the opposite of how we reason about security online. It's simultaneously terrifying and reassuring.

Re:My experience as a poll worker in Pennsylvania by JustARandomGuy on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @04:59PM (#25052575)
I volunteered as an election judge in a neighboring county (Hello from DuPage County) and can affirm much of tptacek's post. Having the experience of an election judge, I'm not worried about anyone trying to steal the election, there's just too much paperwork involved at every level.

Likewise in regards to the police: we had DuPage sheriffs wander in occasionally to look around and chat - they were reasonably friendly with some random chitchat. I don't think they were looking for anything in particular, just trying to deter any mischief by being seen openly.

One thing that surprised me is how hard election judges worked: I started by 6:30 AM and only ended at 8:30 PM, with maybe a 15 min break for lunch. All the other time I was handing out ballots, doing paperwork, giving directions, etc. In DuPage election judges get $100 for the whole day - I would be in favor of doubling that plus some money for lunch + dinner.

Re:My experience as a poll worker in Pennsylvania by patio11 on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @02:56PM (#25050937)
I remember as an election judge in IIRC 2000, while in high school, having to enforce the electioneering thing against someone in the facility. Some things never change.

I also came away from it thinking "Oh goodness it is amazing democracy survives, but kinda cool that it survives in an extremely participatory matter."

Edited: Would have been for the primary, not the general, so I was still in high school, and the youngest judge by 50 years or so for our polling place.

Re:My experience as a poll worker in Pennsylvania by nomercy400 on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @03:46AM (#25056663)
In my country we have a simple rule to prevent electioneering on election day: electioneering on election day is forbidden. Not 100ft, not 100m, simply nowhere.
Re:My experience as a poll worker in Pennsylvania by ebalit on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @01:25PM (#25061160)
Same in my country. Elections are always on Sundays and the campaign stops from Friday night to the results reveal at 8 pm the day of the election. Spreading polls results or estimates is also forbidden during this period, even though in recent years it has been hard to enforce especially from foreign sources.
Re:My experience as a poll worker in Pennsylvania by Thervicarl on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:51AM (#25067830)
Not sure if that is what you are referring to but this is what happens in France with Swiss and Belgian websites being overloaded on French election days.
Re:My experience as a poll worker in Pennsylvania by ebalit on Friday November 13, 2020 @02:53PM (#25086628)
It was indeed what I was referring to.
Re:My experience as a poll worker in Pennsylvania by valarauko on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @04:07PM (#25062988)
In my country election campaigning has to stop 72 hours before the polls. No ads, no speeches, no nothing.
Re:My experience as a poll worker in Pennsylvania by riffraff on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:16AM (#25055701)
> Most pollworkers in my experience are there for the money (I've never bothered cashing the check) and the threat that they won't get paid if they count doesn't match is extremely powerful.

That's it, you just don't get paid? I'd expect it to involve a criminal investigation.