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Tell HN: 1k MRR is not 1k salary

My 2 cents to [1] and [2]

Let's talk about risk-reward.

I used to have a 6 digits job in tech. I've quit to start my own company. We're >1k MRR, my salary is $0/mo.

First, making money from your product/service is much more difficult than making money selling your time. So, I would agree that 1k MRR is an amazing achievement. Moreover, I hardly doubt that even 80% of top notch devs from SV can achieve 1k MRR working on a product from 0.

Second, I do realize that every day that I do not work for FAANG I lose money (by not being paid a salary). Still, I also understand that I have a chance to build 1B$ ARR company. I have a chance to start making much more than what I could working for someone. This chance is tiny but it exists.

Third, product's MRR and salary are different things. You might read this text having a $250k/mo salary while your company is doing bad. You're still paid your salary while your company is loosing millions every month. Does this mean you are a bad employe? Of course not.

Salary is not MRR.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25036526 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25047838

( 15 comments | 22 points | on HN )
Re:Tell HN: 1k MRR is not 1k salary by seanwilson on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @04:57AM (#25057039)
> Second, I do realize that every day that I do not work for FAANG I lose money (by not being paid a salary).

You could argue you're losing money being on Hacker News, sleeping more, cooking, talking to a friend, watching a movie etc.

Life isn't all about money. Some people are happier with the freedoms they get running their own business compared to e.g. making more money working 9 to 5 with less freedom on what they work on, how they work on it and when.

Re:Tell HN: 1k MRR is not 1k salary by 2rsf on Thursday November 12, 2020 @04:29AM (#25068082)
Not only that, working for FAANG might harm your mental and physical health due to stress, causing you to stop working earlier hence lose money
Re:Tell HN: 1k MRR is not 1k salary by quickthrower2 on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @11:38PM (#25055534)
When did working for FAANG become some sort of baseline normal thing to compare anything else you do to?
Re:Tell HN: 1k MRR is not 1k salary by Jugurtha on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @09:04AM (#25058463)
I think the original poster was communicating they were aware of the opportunity cost given they had such a job. I don't think the message was that it was a baseline normal thing, just their previous circumstance.
Re:Tell HN: 1k MRR is not 1k salary by krishnanvs on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @01:33AM (#25056039)
Yup. For bootstrapped product firms, the founders really have to expect 2-3 years at the minimum before even thinking about paying themselves half of the baseline salaries( SF or NYC ) that they were getting during their employment years. Have personally seen so many of my peers getting burned out both professionally and personally with unrealistic expectations and quitting the software industry completely.

Tech people tend to underestimate costs associated with running a business. Hosting, marketing, sales, salaries, rent. 1k MRR is a great milestone but yes it really is $0 in salary for founders.

Re:Tell HN: 1k MRR is not 1k salary by psychstudio on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @10:30PM (#25066092)
Year 4 checking in! No salary here.
Re:Tell HN: 1k MRR is not 1k salary by shoo on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @02:38AM (#25056294)
Yup, re: the third point, in essentially every business, owner-operator's profit will be a lot less than revenue.

For an arbitrary example, here are some numbers of a tiny public company that's been operating for over 30 years: $75m annual revenue, about half of which is recurring software subscription revenue. The net profit for the shareholders of the company after tax is $8m, so about 10% of revenue. Of the 90% of expenses, the C-suite and board are collectively getting paid around $2.7m, so call it 4% of revenue.

Re:Tell HN: 1k MRR is not 1k salary by textread on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:28AM (#25067717)
I would love to dig deeper and see the SEC filing for this example. If possible, would you please name this publicly traded company?
Re:Tell HN: 1k MRR is not 1k salary by ezekg on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @04:54PM (#25052511)
Truth. When first starting out I always had the thought "OK, I'll go full-time once I hit $2k MRR", or 3k MRR, or 4k, "that'll be enough", but once I'd hit that mark, I'd realized I just couldn't do it because as my MRR grew my costs followed. I had to hit $8k MRR to be able to go full-time on my business, and even then that was taking a 60% pay-cut and a big leap of faith.
Re:Tell HN: 1k MRR is not 1k salary by javajosh on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @07:21PM (#25064705)
It's a spicier life, but not necessarily a better one. Some people really need that sense of risk, of adventure to be happy. But most people seem to just want convenience, comfort, and predictable routine.
Re:Tell HN: 1k MRR is not 1k salary by draw_down on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @07:26PM (#25054051)
> Moreover, I hardly doubt that even 80% of top notch devs from SV can achieve 1k MRR working on a product from 0.

Sure. And I’d hardly call myself top notch, so no doubt I’d be unable to achieve that.

Thing is I have no interest in doing that, partly because as it turns out I need quite a bit more than a thousand dollars in a month, and partly because I don’t like doing hard shit. Guess I’m just crazy like that. So it’s fortunate for me that I can make quite a bit more than that, with less risk and less effort, and a whole lot fewer sleepless nights.

Re:Tell HN: 1k MRR is not 1k salary by quickthrower2 on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @10:24AM (#25059079)
That’s understandable. I also understand why people want to make a side income. For all the hard work and small pay checks in the beginning, it’s worth it to have a business in the end. There is no guarantee though and I think putting in work into something with no pay and no guarantee of success is just not compatible with most people. It require some degree of craziness!
Re:Tell HN: 1k MRR is not 1k salary by bxk1 on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @05:02PM (#25052622)
With $1k MRR you can move to many cheap countries in the world and live there comfortably while working on your product, service, whatever it is you are offering. You can't do that with a regular job.
Re:Tell HN: 1k MRR is not 1k salary by stevekemp on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @03:18PM (#25062504)
$1k MRR means you get $1000/month revenue, but if your costs are $900/month you're not going to be living anywhere with that money!

(And that's obviously ignoring other costs, which might not be monthly. e.g. supplies, hardware, domain-name registration, etc.)

Of course the hope is that costs fall, and don't scale linearly with revenue. Allowing actual profit in the future.

Re:Tell HN: 1k MRR is not 1k salary by bot41 on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @05:40PM (#25053046)
How if your salary from that is 0?