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Re:Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable... by BossingAround on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @02:22PM (#25050380)
With that fast SSD, do you notice paging in Xcode? Would it be worth the extra $300 or however much Apple asks for extra 8GB of ram in the US store?
Re:Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable... by mgkimsal on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @02:28PM (#25050469)
yes, you notice paging, even with 'fast' SSD.

or perhaps it's not 'paging', and just dumb luck I hit and see beachballs on multiple new higher-end macbook pros regularly.

Re:Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable... by cesaref on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @03:43PM (#25051653)
It's not normally paging, but thermal throttling which involves the machine appearing to 'spin' but it's actually just the kernel keeping the cycles to itself, which typically give you beachballs as a side-effect.

And one tip is to use the right hand side USBC ports for charging, not the left hand ones as for some reason or other they tend to cause the machine to heat up more...

Re:Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable... by mgkimsal on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @05:46PM (#25053111)
the right hand ones are the only ones that can drive external monitors (on mine anyway). I feel like I'm the only one that has this - I had a MBP 2019 - first batch - and I thought I'd read that one side was different than the other re: power. Power works on both sides, but monitors won't run from the left usb-c ports. but it's not documented anywhere. :/

thx for tip.

Re:Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable... by w0mbat on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @11:19PM (#25055471)
I just tried plugging my monitor into a right hand socket on my 2019 MBP, and it worked fine for me.

On my machine it is true that charging on the right is better. Charging on the left spins up the fan.

Re:Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable... by agildehaus on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @02:48PM (#25050821)
Just a thought, but maybe everyone should be appalled at that extra $300. And the lack of upgradability on a Pro machine, especially.
Re:Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable... by OOPMan on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @04:22PM (#25052123)
You're talking to Apple customers. Being gouged is a way of life for them.