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Re:How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges by dangus on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @12:19PM (#25048384)
This is the most annoying trope. Yes, I want color printing. Why wouldn’t I want color printing?

I feel like the “black and white brother laser” attitude is like buying a car with no air conditioning because you’ll save five hundred bucks off the sticker price.

The reason to choose inkjet:

1. Black and white sucks

2. Color lasers are huge and don’t really save money on toner vs. ink for typical home users.

My current printer is an HP OfficeJet 9015, which has been excellent. Zero software needed for Windows 10, iOS (AirPrint), macOS.

Another thing those cheap brother laser printers don’t give you is, you know, features. My inkjet printer has a scanner, auto document feeder with auto duplex, and auto duplex printing.

If you want all that with a color laser you end up with a monstrosity in your house.

Re:How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges by throwaway314156 on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @10:07PM (#25055096)
> Color lasers are huge

Since all the praise here has been for Brother laser printers, I went looking for the cheapest B&W and color laser printers they offer. That would be the HLL2300D and HLL3210CW respectively. The first one is 14.0" W x 14.2" D x 7.2" H, while the second one is 16.1” W x 18.1” D x 9.9” H. So it's 2 inches wider, 4 inches longer, and 3 inches taller. Doesn't seem that much bigger to me:

https://comparesizes.com/saved/CompareSizes_HLL2300D_vs_HLL3...

> and don’t really save money on toner vs. ink for typical home users.

At the very least, toner cartridges drying out isn't really a thing.

>If you want all that with a color laser you end up with a monstrosity in your house.

Your HP OfficeJet 9015 has official dimensions of 17.3" x 20.46" x 10.94". The Brother MFC9340CDW also has a scanner with ADF with auto-duplex (and does it in one pass, actually), and auto-duplex printing. Its dimensions are 16.1" x 19.0" x 16.1". So it's true that the color laser is taller. However, it has a smaller footprint, which is what matters for most people when trying to situate a printer.

One feature that your OfficeJet does not have that I appreciate (and this Brother AIO has) is a manual feed slot, which lets me skip the rigamarole of emptying the paper tray, fiddling with the tray to fit the envelope or whatever custom paper I'm using, printing, and then reversing what I previously did. That likely contributes at least a little bit to the height.

Re:How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges by toast0 on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @01:04PM (#25048954)
For the things I print, color doesn't really matter.

Do I care about the color of the airline logo on my bording pass? Nope.

When I print driving directions, do I care about the colors? Maybe a little.

Does color matter for recipies? Not really.

I still got a color laser printer during lockdown to replace the inkjet that I can't print to with Chrome OS anymore (thanks to Google killing Cloud Print). It wasn't too much extra to support it for just in case, and color toner won't spoil by sitting like on the inkjet.

Re:How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges by isogon on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @12:25PM (#25048452)
I think it's a trope because most people really don't need color printing, so that advice is appropriate for them.

I, for example, have only ever used my printer to print such things as tickets and documents which must be mailed for bureaucratic reasons. My hunch is that this describes many others too.

Re:How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges by dangus on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @01:22PM (#25049201)
I think that “most people” really means “most programmer type computer nerds on hacker news.”

I think most people prefer having color. The top 8 printers on Best Buy’s website are all color and/or photo printers.