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Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by intricatedetail on Sunday November 08, 2020 @03:46PM (#25028846)
We now have more control and we can vote for a party that could fix this.
Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by raspyberr on Sunday November 08, 2020 @04:00PM (#25028975)
Could you please name a party who's against this? The Pirate Party UK recently disbanded. There is no one to vote for and practically starting a party won't achieve much. Seriously, give me a party to vote for to reduce the state of surveillance in the UK.
Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by intricatedetail on Sunday November 08, 2020 @04:14PM (#25029107)
It does not exist because there is no public awareness. One of the parties could start looking into it and make noise. But if it won't catch up with the public it won't happen, however without EU at least we have a chance.
Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by m4rtink on Sunday November 08, 2020 @05:22PM (#25029668)
The Czech pirat party is dping rather well on both local and european level - it meeds a lot of work, but it can be done!
Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by intricatedetail on Sunday November 08, 2020 @07:13PM (#25030285)
It's much less work to convince one country than dozens.
Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by EliRivers on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @04:22PM (#25063145)
Which is why we can now watch our protections and human rights and other such vanish into the distance. Without the need to convince dozens of other countries to join in, the UK can fuck itself over. The greatest threat to the liberties of the British people remains its own government and ruling classes.
Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by EliRivers on Sunday November 08, 2020 @03:51PM (#25028898)
We could. We won't.

People who cared about this in the UK; our best bet was to stay in the EU which is not nearly so extreme about it as the UK is. The current UK government is looking forwards to jettisoning the protections and human rights that were afforded us by being in the EU.

That said, the current UK government is fantastically inept. Everything they touch turns to shit, and any time BoJo says he absolutely won't do something - he'll crumble in a fortnight (see e.g. every EU negotiation, Lockdown 2.0, the feeding children fiasco, etc etc).

There are current UK ministers whose names have become bywords for incompetency and government fuckup. If the UK decided to ban encryption tomorrow, and the government put their best people on it, we'd be looking at a decade or so before they got anywhere. The EU are heading to a more moderate place, but they will get there faster by virtue of not being British; by not having to do it via the dream team of Johnson, Cummings, and whoever is in charge of screwing up everything they touch this week (Chris Grayling, the man who paid millions to a ferry company that had never owned, chartered, leased or in any other way been involved with a ferry or single ferry route, historically takes this role).

Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by djaychela on Sunday November 08, 2020 @03:49PM (#25028883)
There won't be a party who has a chance of being elected that could 'fix' this.