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Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by MrBuddyCasino on Sunday November 08, 2020 @03:36PM (#25028767)
> We probably have left at the last minute.

If that means you’re British: the GCHQ initiated this. Nobody is more under video surveillance than you guys. Enjoy your chat loicense.

Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by fakedang on Sunday November 08, 2020 @04:03PM (#25029019)
Fun fact, almost all of that surveillance is operated by private players - pubs, shops, small stores, etc. The UK never had a Big Brother set up unlike some mainland cities. People keep bringing up this bullshit statistic without going deeper.

And it's not like the police can barge in and demand video.

Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by MrBuddyCasino on Monday November 09, 2020 @03:04AM (#25032410)
> UK never had a Big Brother set up

I don't even know where to start.

Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by fakedang on Monday November 09, 2020 @06:26AM (#25033636)
I mean sure there is the GCHQ and all of its shenanigans, but none closely resembling a system where the police track your movements every single second via video feed.
Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by MrBuddyCasino on Monday November 09, 2020 @07:49AM (#25034184)
Well then there is nothing to worry about haha, you sure seem like a splendid lad and the coppers won't ever knock on your door for wrong-think will they, because that has never happened right, that simply isn't a thing in the UK, couldn't be me I surely have only officially approved opinions haha I love this new law
Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by fakedang on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @02:44PM (#25050755)
Funnily when I was in London, coppers knocked on my door at least twice a year on average. It was a running gag towards the end.

Considering that I come from a third world nation where the cops often pull members of my community aside for searches and special checks, the British police force for all their faults are a breath of fresh air. I've been exactly in that spot, with police using surveillance data and national ID data to arrest protestors and put them under false charges. I've personally almost been arrested for no reason except for 1.) walking in the night alone and 2.) walking at night in suspicious clothing (i.e. T-shirt and shorts).

Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by intricatedetail on Sunday November 08, 2020 @03:45PM (#25028836)
We can now vote for a party who can try to fix this. It wouldn't be possible if that was EU wide.
Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by alkonaut on Sunday November 08, 2020 @03:58PM (#25028960)
Brexit was founded on the misunderstanding that it was "faceless unelected bureaucrats" that run the EU. I'd argue Britons wielded more power than most others in the EU, and that the EU parliament is quite a lot more democratic than the British one. The british are now stuck with the UK parliament without adult supervision.
Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by intricatedetail on Sunday November 08, 2020 @04:12PM (#25029090)
Can you explain how average Brit had more power?
Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by alkonaut on Sunday November 08, 2020 @05:06PM (#25029530)
Because they still had exactly the same power in their own government, and a sizable chunk of power in the European one. Now they'll follow a huge part of European regulations to be able to trade, but have no seat at the table.
Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by intricatedetail on Sunday November 08, 2020 @07:11PM (#25030277)
Government had to implement whatever EC proposed and MEPs voted in. Now they don't have to.
Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by scrollaway on Sunday November 08, 2020 @03:48PM (#25028869)
The EU certainly did not put a gun to your head and ask you to be one of the most surveilled countries in the world.