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Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by Consultant32452 on Saturday November 07, 2020 @06:08PM (#25020635)
If you believe he failed to condemn white supremacy in the post Charlottesville press conference, then you clearly didn't watch it. That finepeople.org link has the unedited clip where he says they should be condemned totally.

His worst response on this issue was the debates where he said "sure" to whether he'd condemn white supremacy. And then he was asked about the Proud Boys which are a multi racial group with a black leader.

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by question000 on Saturday November 07, 2020 @06:17PM (#25020742)
I did watch it. He didn't. There were audible gasps in the room when he refused. Literally everyone I know who saw it had the same reaction. I'm not going to stand for this revisionist history.
Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by Consultant32452 on Saturday November 07, 2020 @06:32PM (#25020884)
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-53858940

>According to a transcript of a press conference on 15 August, President Trump did say - when asked about the presence of neo-Nazis at the rally - "you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."

During the same press conference, Mr Trump went on to say "I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally."

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by question000 on Saturday November 07, 2020 @06:44PM (#25021012)
How about you link to the actual transcript https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-pres... Which clearly has nothing to do with the actual issue being discussed.

Trump just suddenly throws this in that line at a totally unrelated contractor permitting press conference for one sentence. It's really crazy, if Trump says one thing to the people of Charlottesville and a totally contradictory thing later in the most obscure circumstance, are we to give him the benefit of the doubt? I don't, there is no doubt.

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by Consultant32452 on Saturday November 07, 2020 @08:35PM (#25021928)
I see, in a later press conference, after he'd given a full throated condemnation of white supremacy, someone asked him about his fine people comment and he reaffirms his belief that there were people supporting the statue. Again, something that could be false.

The idea that literally dozens of times he directly and clearly denounced white white supremacy, that he practically couldn't shut up for four years about all the great things he was doing for black people, that he passed the criminal justice reform bill, that he funded historically black colleges more than any administration in history, that he created opportunity zones to bring investment into black communities... He's going around the country bragging about these things constantly, but his off the cuff response in a press conference where he reaffirms his belief that there were some non-racist statue supporters... That's when the real truth came out, that was his big signal to the white supremacists that he was on their side in spite of significant policies and repeatedly proclaiming the opposite. That's a wild belief.

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by question000 on Saturday November 07, 2020 @09:14PM (#25022141)
Trump didn't create "opportunity zones" for black people. He didn't fund historically black colleges. He didn't pass a crime reform bill. He didn't denounce white supremacy. He just lied about these things and you believe him.

Where are these opportunity zones? Where are these educational opportunities, where was the crime reform, a fantasy. You are taking a known lier at face value. Why? I can just easily dismiss anything you say because Trump accomplished nothing all empty words.

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by Consultant32452 on Saturday November 07, 2020 @10:39PM (#25022684)
Here's a list of the grants provided to opportunity zones.

https://www.eda.gov/opportunity-zones/data-disclaimer/

Signed a bill instituting permanent funding for HBCUs.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2019-12-19/tru...

>And under the Trump administration, federal funding for HBCUs has increased by more than $100 million over the last two years, a 17% increase since 2017.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2019-09-...

The criminal justice reform bill was called the First Step Act.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Step_Act

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by question000 on Saturday November 07, 2020 @10:58PM (#25022793)
Trump basically neutered every single thing you mentioned. It's a total joke, shooting down these bills then taking credit for them.

Use your critical thinking skills.

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by Consultant32452 on Saturday November 07, 2020 @11:17PM (#25022922)
First you said he didn't do them, now you're admitting he was publicly bragging about helping black people. Progress.
Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by question000 on Sunday November 08, 2020 @05:04AM (#25024572)
Yes I admit he's a liar. Publicly he said both things. He just lost this election because his words were just empty nonsense designed to confuse.
Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by Consultant32452 on Sunday November 08, 2020 @10:35AM (#25026368)
We've come a long way. We started with the idea that he had said Nazis are fine people. We debunked that totally. Now we're all the way down to the much smaller claim that even though Trump consistently and publicly signals his support for black people you believe he is lying. Progress.
Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by question000 on Sunday November 08, 2020 @11:52AM (#25026974)
I just now believe people like you will support without question any comment he makes. It's just the type of cult-like brainwashing that I'd expect. Who cares if he openly praises police brutality? He "publicly signals" something else!

Listen to yourself talk. He a 100% said Nazis are fine people, you were debunked. As Trump would say "You know it, I know it, everybody knows it!"

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by Consultant32452 on Sunday November 08, 2020 @11:59AM (#25027038)
Here's my compromise position.

Because of what Trump has done regarding Yemen he is a war criminal who deserves to be in prison for the rest of his life.

Also, he never once said Nazis are fine people.

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by question000 on Sunday November 08, 2020 @01:04PM (#25027486)
Hey if you really honestly believe you're right why are you compromising? Progress :)