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Re:A14X Bionic Performance Stats Leak Out – Easily Outperfor... by redrobein on Thursday November 05, 2020 @11:55PM (#25005027)
Not too familiar with cpus but if it's known that arm outperforms x86 while also being more power efficient, why aren't everyone using it? Why did it take until now for a major computer manufacturer to switch?
Re:A14X Bionic Performance Stats Leak Out – Easily Outperfor... by wmf on Friday November 06, 2020 @12:30AM (#25005177)
ARM doesn't outperform x86. Apple Silicon—which only Apple has—outperforms x86, and only this year.
Re:A14X Bionic Performance Stats Leak Out – Easily Outperfor... by rbanffy on Friday November 06, 2020 @08:17AM (#25007375)
ARM did outperform x86 at the start. An Archimedes could do floating point faster than a Compaq Deskpro 386 with a 387 FPU.
Re:A14X Bionic Performance Stats Leak Out – Easily Outperfor... by rbanffy on Friday November 06, 2020 @08:13AM (#25007351)
> f it's known that arm outperforms x86 while also being more power efficient, why aren't everyone using it?

PowerPC and Alpha did that in the 90's and the reason is software.

Intel's x86 has a huge software ecosystem. In 1999 (thanks to a procurement mistake) I was reading my e-mail and browsing documentation on a wicked fast 64-bit computer. It would be a good couple more years before I could edit a Word document on a 64-bit computer because Microsoft didn't have Office for them. I only got to read e-mail on that ridiculously fast Unix workstation because nobody wanted to use it and it was just sitting there running our timesheet software and magnificent screensavers.

Multi-processor x86 desktop machines only became popular when Windows XP became popular. Multi-processor Macs only became popular when Apple moved to OSX. IBM only added multi-processor support for their mainframes when they hit a dead end and had to move to machines with slower CMOS processors with more processors to make up for the speed they lost.

Software dynamics holds hardware evolution back.

Re:A14X Bionic Performance Stats Leak Out – Easily Outperfor... by k_sze on Friday November 06, 2020 @12:18AM (#25005125)
Part of the reason is that ensuring things work for a different CPU architecture is simply a non-trivial task. There are libraries with hand-written x86 assembly, and others in C/C++ that depend on x86 intrinsics to perform acceptably, and then there are those that work accidentally on x86 because of how compilers implement some undefined behaviour for x86.
Re:A14X Bionic Performance Stats Leak Out – Easily Outperfor... by rbanffy on Friday November 06, 2020 @08:24AM (#25007422)
Cloudflare did a very interesting post that made the rounds here: https://blog.cloudflare.com/neon-is-the-new-black/

Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16831609