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Re:Volvo Trucks to launch full range of electric trucks in E... by myself248 on Thursday November 05, 2020 @12:03PM (#24999843)
The usage model they're targeting is trucks that return to a depot overnight. Local delivery and drayage routes have ample time to charge.

Honestly one of the bigger issues is upgrading the electrical service at the depots to support the chargers. I worked on a prototype EV truck, and they had to software-limit the charger when first installed, because running flat-out it could draw more power than the entire rest of the prototype facility. They had to get the utility out to drop a new transformer before they could unleash the charger's full power.

The power you buy in a few gallons of diesel fuel is simply staggering.

Re:Volvo Trucks to launch full range of electric trucks in E... by ben_w on Thursday November 05, 2020 @12:43PM (#25000210)
> The power you buy in a few gallons of diesel fuel is simply staggering.

1 Liter per second ~= 38.6 megawatts, for diesel.

I’ve never bothered paying attention to the flow rate in a fuel station, but it’s really fortunate that electric cars are fundamentally more efficient than combustion engines.

Re:Volvo Trucks to launch full range of electric trucks in E... by myself248 on Thursday November 05, 2020 @04:17PM (#25002071)
Quoth Wikipedia:

> Image result for gas station pump flow rate Light passenger vehicle pump up to about 50 litres (13 US gallons) per minute (the United States limits this to 10 US gallons (38 litres) per minute); pumps serving trucks and other large vehicles have a higher flow rate, up to 130 litres (34 US gallons) per minute in the UK. and 40 US gallons (150 litres) in the US.

So roughly 80 megawatts coming out of that diesel nozzle. Most impressive!

I've heard of CCS chargers in development that'll push 350kW (920V, 500A), which involves crazy stuff like liquid-cooled connectors. They flow 3M Novec through the cable.: https://ittcannon.com/core/medialibrary/ittcannon/website/li...

Re:Volvo Trucks to launch full range of electric trucks in E... by throwaway0a5e on Thursday November 05, 2020 @07:04PM (#25003483)
Assuming 1/3 efficiency (because ICE) a gasoline pump (34ga/min) has a power output of a little over 8000hp or 6mw which comes out to around 4000amps assuming normal 480v 3ph.
Re:Volvo Trucks to launch full range of electric trucks in E... by Symbiote on Thursday November 05, 2020 @12:51PM (#25000286)
For comparison, a high speed train is around 10MW according to a quick search.
Re:Volvo Trucks to launch full range of electric trucks in E... by rkangel on Thursday November 05, 2020 @12:39PM (#25000169)
It's the new version of the old 'the fastest data rate is a truck full of harddrives'. Now we can say 'for transferring energy, you can't beat a petrol pump pouring fuel'
Re:Volvo Trucks to launch full range of electric trucks in E... by throwaway0a5e on Thursday November 05, 2020 @07:12PM (#25003532)
>for transferring energy, you can't beat a petrol pump pouring fuel

Pretty much any time fissionable material is moved probably beats it.

Re:Volvo Trucks to launch full range of electric trucks in E... by dredmorbius on Thursday November 05, 2020 @01:27PM (#25000603)
MOX fuel pellets do slightly better. Tritium-lithium may, some day.

But yes, hydrocarbon chains are damned energy dense for chemical reactions.