Ask HN: Hey Drew, why is Dropbox becoming so bad?

Re:Ask HN: Hey Drew, why is Dropbox becoming so bad? by kevincox on Wednesday November 04, 2020 @03:09PM (#24992591)

I think it is a product. The problem with our economy is that companies "need" to keep growing. What if Dropbox implemented sync and said "great, we are done". The don't need to keep growing their staff, and they don't need to keep adding big new features. The can add features that make sense, refine the UX and maybe do a bit of optimization with a tiny team.

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Re:Ask HN: Hey Drew, why is Dropbox becoming so bad? by toomuchtodo on Wednesday November 04, 2020 @03:19PM (#24992667)

This works if you don't take VC investment (from funds which want their stake to moon) and instead bootstrap (or obtain investment from an aligned stakeholder [1]) and maintain a controlling interest in the company.

Examples: Backblaze [2] and Basecamp [1]

Anyone can shoot to be a unicorn [3]. Takes something else to be comfortable with a daily grind (but a grind you enjoy), reliably yet without much fanfare meeting your customers' (mostly static) need.

[1] https://m.signalvnoise.com/the-deal-jeff-bezos-got-on-baseca...

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15074289 (/u/brianwski, Backblaze cofounder: "Finally, Backblaze is profoundly different than CrashPlan in that we never really raised any bank financing or VC financing. We're 90% employee owned, and there are no deep pockets. CrashPlan raised something like $150 million which comes with "pressure to grow fast or die". Backblaze is free of any such pressure, we own our own fate.")

[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzAdXyPYKQo (nsfw language)

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Re:Ask HN: Hey Drew, why is Dropbox becoming so bad? by anuila on Wednesday November 04, 2020 @04:36PM (#24993301)

I don't see the problem with building new products, Google was just search in the beginning. The problem arises when you screw your original product by tacking everything else onto it.

What if Google turned into Yahoo.com?

Google’s core product is still essentially unchanged since its inception, for the most part, except for ads.

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Re:Ask HN: Hey Drew, why is Dropbox becoming so bad? by jasonmp85 on Wednesday November 04, 2020 @04:57PM (#24993450)

Uh that’s a REALLY bad example, given how much Google indeed HAS tacked everything else onto their core product. How many ads do you have to scroll past for the first real result? Are you certain the results are good, or are they skewed by some weirdness in your login, since they track all your searches now, to “personalize” (target) results (ads)?

Google’s core product was a text box into which you could type anything and get something useful in the first few results. That product no longer exists.

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Re:Ask HN: Hey Drew, why is Dropbox becoming so bad? by anuila on Friday November 06, 2020 @01:35PM (#25009976)

It still exists for me. There’s no comparable search engine at the moment, it’s still the best at what it does and the format hasn’t changed (except for ads, as I mentioned)

It’s still the same old list of links that has been enhanced to highlight the first result or the most recent news. Over 20 years that’s merely evolution.

Dropbox turned from invisible into its own app separate from the OS. Don’t you see how, comparatively, Google Search hasn’t changed?

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Re:Ask HN: Hey Drew, why is Dropbox becoming so bad? by JaggerJo on Friday November 06, 2020 @06:10PM (#25011999)

give duckduckgo a shot for say one week.

I just don’t trust the results google returns.

Sometimes I still !g something but rarely get a better matching result.

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Re:Ask HN: Hey Drew, why is Dropbox becoming so bad? by anuila on Monday November 09, 2020 @03:02PM (#25039209)

I did and it's never good enough for me. I just re-did my last non-trivial search on ddg and none of the first page results were useful.

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Re:Ask HN: Hey Drew, why is Dropbox becoming so bad? by tibbydudeza on Wednesday November 04, 2020 @05:00PM (#24993477)

Yep like Google Plus and Google Video.

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Re:Ask HN: Hey Drew, why is Dropbox becoming so bad? by schappim on Wednesday November 04, 2020 @07:23PM (#24994503)

Companies neglecting their orignial product line is not a recent phenomenon.

Wrigley's started selling soap, and gifted baking powder with their orders. Their baking soda was more popular than their soap, so they sold baking powder and gifted gum...

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Re:Ask HN: Hey Drew, why is Dropbox becoming so bad? by clusterfish on Thursday November 05, 2020 @04:34AM (#24996822)

Aside from the VC angle, without constant growth your product will likely end up failing to compete with some monopolist vertically integrating or diversifying into your market.

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