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Re:Down to the Suburbs by throwaway0a5e on Wednesday November 04, 2020 @01:16PM (#24991537)
So the covid forced return of the young urban professionals will be the savior of all the places they hail from?

As someone who grew up in one of the kinds of places these people retire to when they're old and gray I have some serious doubts that they are going to do anything other than tell everyone else "you're doing it wrong".

Re:Down to the Suburbs by Loughla on Wednesday November 04, 2020 @01:53PM (#24991861)
I choose to live in an area of the country people seem to move to only if they have no other opportunities as youth, or are old enough to not worry about opportunities via retirement. It's cheap here, is what I'm saying.

And many, many young people are moving back and have 'discovered' farming, forestry, and gardening. They treat it like they've discovered some long forgotten relic of an ancient past.

We do those things already. The difference is, nobody in their 80's, and nobody struggling with a family farm is making an instagram about it.

Maybe I'm getting old, and maybe I'm getting crotchety. But, if one more 20-30 year old tells me how I should be growing crops and how crop rotation works, without letting me interject that I've been doing this for longer than they've been alive, and have a current, operating partnership with the local University co-op for soil/water/native wildlife conservation projects, I'll scream.

Re:Down to the Suburbs by dylan604 on Wednesday November 04, 2020 @04:53PM (#24993418)
We've all been there. As a younger person, you know everything! The old farts don't know what it's like. I can't believe they haven't tried this new thing! As an older person, we're like why do you keep insisting on doing it the wrong way thinking it is a new way to only discover there was nothing wrong with the old way.
Re:Down to the Suburbs by Loughla on Thursday November 05, 2020 @08:51AM (#24998182)
But this is different. This isn't 'new way' in this case. This is solidly - 'old way' and 'you're already doing it, but let me tell you how I know so much more than you'.

I've lived long enough to understand that young people want new and exciting. I tried to convince my 90+ year old grandfather to invest in hemp farming in the early 90's. I get it. But, again, this is different.

There's a level of arrogance. There's a level of - you're over 45, so you can't possibly understand the internet and what's available. And there is a steadfast refusal to listen to other opinions and ideas, unless they're explicitly endorsed by glam farmers or celebrities on instagram.

I know that all sounds so crotchety and old, but it's the truth. This isn't just 'new is better'. This is 'I am better'. It's different.

Re:Down to the Suburbs by closeparen on Wednesday November 04, 2020 @03:31PM (#24992771)
Which is it? Try to work through official public channels, and you’re just telling people they’re doing it wrong. Take action yourself and you’re usurping power that rightly belongs to the community. Do nothing and you’re a miserly transient failing to care about or invest in your community. Stay away and you’re an uppity, entitled elite who thinks you’re too good for the place.

The locals are going to resent you no matter what, so maybe just do what you want.