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Re:Windows 7 won't die, still second most popular operating ... by WorldMaker on Tuesday November 03, 2020 @03:36PM (#24983690)
Most of the settings reverts ars bugs not caught by Insiders. A volunteer test force is always going to be biased by the types of people willing to participate.

Personally, since a major Windows update or two ago I only have one settings panel I actively use that is still a Win32 dialog and not directly in the modern Settings app. That's the Environment Variables dialog, and being a developer/power user control panel I can see how that would be a lower priority to merge to the new Settings. Though it is still interesting to point out that the Environment Variables dialog was improved in Windows 10 over its Windows 7 counterpart.

It shouldn't be surprising to anyone at this point that Microsoft is prioritizing settings updates and merging settings dialogs into the modern app in priority order based on available telemetry of what's most commonly used. It never surprises me that most of the people still complaining that their pet settings that they care about haven't migrated to the modern Settings apps are the same that disable telemetry and complain about it. Microsoft doesn't know you are using that setting often if you aren't giving them the telemetry to understand that, it's pretty simple.

Re:Windows 7 won't die, still second most popular operating ... by vetinari on Tuesday November 03, 2020 @04:45PM (#24984370)
> Most of the settings reverts ars bugs not caught by Insiders

This is simply not true. Nowadays I have a freaking ps script to run after each upgrade, to set things back how I configured them.

> Personally, since a major Windows update or two ago I only have one settings panel I actively use that is still a Win32 dialog and not directly in the modern Settings app.

So you never had to use the Network Adapters window? I need that one pretty often, the new one in Settings is not adequate. How do you add or remove features from Windows, like HyperV or WSL? That one is also inside the old Add/Remove Programs applet (the features on demand in Settings app is a different mechanism, with different content and applications. Yay for consistency).

Re:Windows 7 won't die, still second most popular operating ... by kyriakos on Tuesday November 03, 2020 @10:48PM (#24986336)
Average users don't really use those settings. Connecting to WiFi is handled by the new ui and that's what most users use. I'd say part of having so much telemetry actually helps in this respect for Microsoft to know what's used and what's not. Also for additional features even in the power user case is probably used once after a fresh install.
Re:Windows 7 won't die, still second most popular operating ... by WorldMaker on Tuesday November 03, 2020 @05:57PM (#24985011)
> This is simply not true. Nowadays I have a freaking ps script to run after each upgrade, to set things back how I configured them.

It is true: Microsoft has said several times in Insider blog posts that most settings reverts during updates are considered to be bugs, and if you find one the best place to file that bug report is Feedback Hub. If you care to see that corrected, I can only recommend you try searching Feedback Hub for your specific issues and filing them if you can't find existing reports.

> So you never had to use the Network Adapters window? I need that one pretty often, the new one in Settings is not adequate.

Can't say that I have a regular need for that, no. Most of my devices have only a single network adapter in active use at any given time and the modern Settings has been adequate for my needs.

> How do you add or remove features from Windows, like HyperV or WSL?

The last time I activated or deactivated either of those it was directly in PowerShell.