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Re:“Before cancelling your subscription, you must agree to t... by jkaplowitz on Monday November 02, 2020 @01:17PM (#24971206)
For consumer contracts, many European courts take exactly the opposite tack, refusing to enforce surprising provisions against the consumer.
Re:“Before cancelling your subscription, you must agree to t... by colejohnson66 on Monday November 02, 2020 @01:26PM (#24971313)
Isn’t that because there are regulations that say those provisions aren’t allowed (whether directly or indirectly)? The US doesn’t really have such laws.
Re:“Before cancelling your subscription, you must agree to t... by Bayart on Monday November 02, 2020 @03:13PM (#24972635)
It stems from fundamental difference in how civil law and common law think about contracts. In civil law, a contract is typically only valid to the extent both parties signed in good faith and have a similar understanding of the ins and outs. It's my understanding that in common law, contracts are essentially creating law.
Re:“Before cancelling your subscription, you must agree to t... by Cederfjard on Monday November 02, 2020 @02:17PM (#24971907)
Surely you can’t stipulate just anything in a contract and have that upheld as binding by a court, even in the US?
Re:“Before cancelling your subscription, you must agree to t... by nobody9999 on Monday November 02, 2020 @06:31PM (#24974712)
>Surely you can’t stipulate just anything in a contract and have that upheld as binding by a court, even in the US?

That's a great question. I'd expect that courts would not uphold claims to one's first-born child[0][1], but only because that sort of thing is already illegal (human trafficking). As for stuff that isn't illegal, I expect that YMMV.

That said, people actually "agreed" to give up/assign their first-born children with these "Click-wrap" agreements.

That people are so cavalier about such things should be a huge red flag for regulators to require not just a link to such terms, but that both parties should be required to demonstrate their specific understanding of terms and conditions before such a contract can be considered enforceable.

But that's not how US courts have interpreted this sort of thing. So, as always, Caveat Emptor!

[0] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/sep/29/londoners...

[1] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/07/nobody-reads-tos...

Edit: Fixed spacing.