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Re:Jailbreaking Used Teslas by simon1573 on Saturday October 31, 2020 @01:31PM (#24953402)
I don't agree with the analogy. Tesla manufacturers the whole package and you buy the car as a package. You don't buy the metal from your local car dealer and the software as a separate thing from Tesla.

A more fitting analogy would be Apple charging you to upgrade your BIOS.

Re:Jailbreaking Used Teslas by paulryanrogers on Saturday October 31, 2020 @01:46PM (#24953558)
Except they're selling incomplete software and preorders of may-never-exist software with complete/finished hardware.

Updates to things I trust my family's life and health to should be classified like recalls, a sign of manufacturer failure and not a consumer privilege.

Re:Jailbreaking Used Teslas by noizejoy on Saturday October 31, 2020 @03:07PM (#24954287)
> Updates to things I trust my family's life and health to should be classified like recalls

But modern luxury cars also feature many components that have little to do with safety.

Re:Jailbreaking Used Teslas by paulryanrogers on Saturday October 31, 2020 @04:40PM (#24955028)
If insignificant accessories are properly isolated then I suppose such 'updates' can just be optional patches. But if a media center bug means someone can cause my car to break hard or swerve then even those should be classified as recalls.
Re:Jailbreaking Used Teslas by nickserv on Sunday November 01, 2020 @04:01AM (#24958172)
If any kind of common sense is used, entertainment and control systems are on completely different hardware busses.
Re:Jailbreaking Used Teslas by a1369209993 on Saturday October 31, 2020 @03:02PM (#24954252)
> Updates to things I trust my family's life and health to should be classified like recalls, a sign of manufacturer failure and not a consumer privilege.

To be scrupulously fair, that's true of all software; it's just more important for safety-critical software, because safety-critical software is more important.

Re:Jailbreaking Used Teslas by jiofih on Saturday October 31, 2020 @03:44PM (#24954567)
Apple does charge you to upgrade the OS.
Re:Jailbreaking Used Teslas by donarb on Saturday October 31, 2020 @04:33PM (#24954977)
Apple does not charge for OS upgrades.
Re:Jailbreaking Used Teslas by jiofih on Saturday October 31, 2020 @06:01PM (#24955546)
Not right now, but they did. Snow Leopard was $29, Mountain Lion was $19.
Re:Jailbreaking Used Teslas by saagarjha on Sunday November 01, 2020 @04:36AM (#24958325)
I remain annoyed that there is no way to download the Mountain Lion I paid $19 for.
Re:Jailbreaking Used Teslas by srtjstjsj on Sunday November 01, 2020 @03:26PM (#24962200)
Why? Did you pay for a Mountain Lion hosting service?
Re:Jailbreaking Used Teslas by lights0123 on Saturday October 31, 2020 @11:40PM (#24957050)
That was 8 years ago. Mountain Lion came out before even Windows 8, where even Microsoft was charging for upgrades too before releasing the final version (major version, not build version) of Windows.
Re:Jailbreaking Used Teslas by fastball on Sunday November 01, 2020 @01:16AM (#24957384)
Doesn't MSFT still charge for every OS update?
Re:Jailbreaking Used Teslas by fomine3 on Sunday November 01, 2020 @11:36PM (#24964854)
Windows 10 is the last Windows for client in current plan. MS continuously upgrades features on Win10 instead.