Re:Drivers react to Tesla’s full self-driving beta release
by mdorazio on Saturday October 31, 2020 @10:13AM
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Tesla stats are extremely misleading and deliberately slanted toward favoring Tesla. Unfortunately, it's not really possible to find real stats since they're hidden by individual OEMs and insurance companies. But you would need to compare comparably priced modern cars with standard ADAS features to Teslas with Autopilot to get a datapoint worth talking about for the general case. You would also need to look at where Autopilot is engaged (mostly highways where accidents are rare in general) vs. not engaged (mostly city streets where accidents are common) to draw any real conclusions about safety.
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Re:Drivers react to Tesla’s full self-driving beta release
by mlindner on Sunday November 01, 2020 @03:51AM
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> Tesla stats are extremely misleading and deliberately slanted toward favoring Tesla. Unfortunately, it's not really possible to find real stats since they're hidden by individual OEMs and insurance companies.
You realize that those two statements are in conflict with each other right? If they're misleading and favoring Tesla then you need contrary stats to state that. However you state that they're not available, so your previous statement can only be a lie.
Re:Drivers react to Tesla’s full self-driving beta release
by veggieburglar on Sunday November 01, 2020 @09:30AM
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Sorry, that’s not a logical conclusion. Just because real stats are hard to come by does not mean that Tesla’s stats are true.
Re:Drivers react to Tesla’s full self-driving beta release
by mlindner on Sunday November 01, 2020 @09:15PM
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But until you have evidence that they aren't true, what reason do you have to believe they aren't true? All you're really arguing here is that you personally believe Tesla is a "bad" company so you should disbelieve anything they say. You do realize that's not at all convincing and just shows you're personally biased, right?