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Re:Sierra was captured, then killed, by an accounting fraud by gryson on Friday October 30, 2020 @02:01PM (#24945073)
Ken Williams' initial comment there:

"It does seem obvious that I was fooled by Walter Forbes, but so were most people. He was the Jeff Bezos of his time. He had a big-four accounting firm who signed off on their financials every 90 days. Henry Silverman (Avis, Howard Johnson's, and many other companies) believed in him, as did everyone. He had been on Sierra's board for five years. I thought I knew him well. I also thought we had structured the deal such that the software business couldn't be screwed up. And, I had so much faith that Sierra's market dominance was so strong that no one could ever screw it up. As you might imagine, I've looked back on the crash many times, and still believe I made the right move based on what I knew at the time. The problem was that I was dealing with snakes and didn't know it. MANY people lost their jobs and had their net worth wiped out. It was indeed a sad event, but I wasn't the only person fooled by CUC. Tens of thousands of people directly or indirectly were hurt by the financial scandal."

There are others, too, that are worth reading for the interested.

Re:Sierra was captured, then killed, by an accounting fraud by Waterluvian on Friday October 30, 2020 @06:29PM (#24947477)
I think he's right. Consider this: if you were the person who managed to sniff out that Forbes was bad news, you would be someone sniffing out $3B in fraud. That kind of makes you a wizard.

The reason these people are so profound is specifically because they can fool a lot of people in a con over many many years.

Re:Sierra was captured, then killed, by an accounting fraud by robertlagrant on Friday October 30, 2020 @05:13PM (#24946956)
I'm amazed people still trust audits.
Re:Sierra was captured, then killed, by an accounting fraud by lawnchair_larry on Friday October 30, 2020 @07:11PM (#24947732)
Funny you say this, my reaction upon reading it was “why wouldn’t they?” and reflecting on how I would absolutely trust an audit from a reputable company.

I know very little about accounting and company financials, but I work in security, and quickly remembered how much time I spend trying to convey to people that 3rd party compliance audits are not even worth the paper they’re written on, yet people still have confidence in them.

Kind of a Gell-Mann amnesia effect I suppose.

Re:Sierra was captured, then killed, by an accounting fraud by goatinaboat on Saturday October 31, 2020 @04:00AM (#24949809)
Funny you say this, my reaction upon reading it was “why wouldn’t they?” and reflecting on how I would absolutely trust an audit from a reputable company.

Every financial scam or scandal you read about in the press has at some point been signed off by a reputable accounting firm. Every single one.

The unusual thing about the Enron case is that there actually was some blow-back on the accounting firm too. Business as usual is that the accountants are like teflon.

Re:Sierra was captured, then killed, by an accounting fraud by andrekandre on Friday October 30, 2020 @09:01PM (#24948237)
> I made the right move based on what I knew at the time.

its such a hard thing to really obsorb, but in business and life, we can make "the right decision" and still fail... its tough...