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Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ... by CaptainZapp on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @09:19AM (#24907105)
"In a statement emailed to The Verge, a Verkada spokesperson said: “Verkada does not tolerate sexual harassment or inappropriate behavior. This isolated incident was investigated and all individuals involved were disciplined accordingly."

So, it was investigated by deleting the evidence? Stellar company!

Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ... by bronson on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @09:40AM (#24907288)
The perpetrators still have their jobs and the women they harassed still have to work with them.

It seems Verkada actually does tolerate sexual harassment and inappropriate behavior.

Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ... by jimmaswell on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @11:21AM (#24908257)
This is a sad example of needless extremism where anything short of the nuclear option just isn't good enough.
Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ... by 013a on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @12:01PM (#24908721)
This is a company which had high-level employees use their own product to take pictures of women who worked for them, privately shared those images on a corporate network, attached sexually explicit captions to the images, then deleted the evidence when shit hit the fan.

Literally just one of these transgressions is a fireable offense at most other companies.

Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ... by clairity on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @12:42PM (#24909148)
"nuclear" implies indiscrimiately devastating (lots of collateral damage), not just out of proportion, so losing a job, while painful in the moment, isn't a "nuclear option" for this sort of sexual malice that instills real doubt and insecurity in victims and divides employees and customers otherwise. a lawsuit and an arrest might be closer to that extreme. or at the extreme, a lynching (in no way advocating that of course).

hyperbole has the exact extremist effect you're railing against, which is indeed needless.

with that said, a demotion, an unpaid furlough, or pay cut may be part of a more reasonable consequence, giving the offenders a chance to reflect and grow (and eventually return to their prior status), rather than throwing them into a potentially negative cycle.

Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ... by bronson on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @12:15PM (#24908860)
You think getting fired for violations is the nuclear option? Then what do you call involving law enforcement?
Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ... by chandra381 on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @11:35AM (#24908406)
Needless extremism? Tell me, if something similar happened in your company, or god forbid, to somebody on your team, what would you like to happen?
Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ... by jimmaswell on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @12:33PM (#24909047)
They got the biggest financial penalty in the history of the company apparently, and I'm sure more actions not mentioned here.
Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ... by andyroid on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @02:08PM (#24910123)
That says nothing without knowledge about the next largest financial penalty. It could just as well be the _first_ financial penalty dealt in the history of the company.
Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ... by bronson on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @02:25PM (#24910267)
> and I'm sure more actions not mentioned here.

Why are you sure? Especially given their weak response so far?

Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ... by CaptainZapp on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @11:24AM (#24908295)
We may disagree here, but this is such egregious behavior that I, for one, only see the nuclear option for such a case.

But as long the money roles in investors don't give a shit.

Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ... by KittenInABox on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @01:51PM (#24909958)
Sharing secret photos of co-workers and making lewd comments about them is a nuclear behavior.
Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ... by chowned on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @01:22PM (#24909597)
Not a day goes by on here where I don't read ten comments reminding everyone that employment is a mutual contract that can be terminated by either party at any time. So I'll say to you what those people say: you can always just get a new job, one where sexism is tolerated.