Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ...
by jimmaswell on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @11:21AM
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This is a sad example of needless extremism where anything short of the nuclear option just isn't good enough.
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Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ...
by 013a on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @12:01PM
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This is a company which had high-level employees use their own product to take pictures of women who worked for them, privately shared those images on a corporate network, attached sexually explicit captions to the images, then deleted the evidence when shit hit the fan.
Literally just one of these transgressions is a fireable offense at most other companies.
Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ...
by clairity on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @12:42PM
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"nuclear" implies indiscrimiately devastating (lots of collateral damage), not just out of proportion, so losing a job, while painful in the moment, isn't a "nuclear option" for this sort of sexual malice that instills real doubt and insecurity in victims and divides employees and customers otherwise. a lawsuit and an arrest might be closer to that extreme. or at the extreme, a lynching (in no way advocating that of course).
hyperbole has the exact extremist effect you're railing against, which is indeed needless.
with that said, a demotion, an unpaid furlough, or pay cut may be part of a more reasonable consequence, giving the offenders a chance to reflect and grow (and eventually return to their prior status), rather than throwing them into a potentially negative cycle.
Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ...
by bronson on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @12:15PM
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You think getting fired for violations is the nuclear option? Then what do you call involving law enforcement?
Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ...
by chandra381 on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @11:35AM
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Needless extremism? Tell me, if something similar happened in your company, or god forbid, to somebody on your team, what would you like to happen?
Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ...
by jimmaswell on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @12:33PM
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They got the biggest financial penalty in the history of the company apparently, and I'm sure more actions not mentioned here.
Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ...
by andyroid on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @02:08PM
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That says nothing without knowledge about the next largest financial penalty. It could just as well be the _first_ financial penalty dealt in the history of the company.
Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ...
by bronson on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @02:25PM
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> and I'm sure more actions not mentioned here.
Why are you sure? Especially given their weak response so far?
Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ...
by CaptainZapp on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @11:24AM
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We may disagree here, but this is such egregious behavior that I, for one, only see the nuclear option for such a case.
But as long the money roles in investors don't give a shit.
Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ...
by KittenInABox on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @01:51PM
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Sharing secret photos of co-workers and making lewd comments about them is a nuclear behavior.
Re:Surveillance company harassed female employees using its ...
by chowned on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @01:22PM
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Not a day goes by on here where I don't read ten comments reminding everyone that employment is a mutual contract that can be terminated by either party at any time. So I'll say to you what those people say: you can always just get a new job, one where sexism is tolerated.