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Re:Fastly hires entire Wasmtime team from Mozilla by ChrisSD on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @01:18AM (#24904664)
The browser is absolutely their focus which is why they laid off the Servo team. Servo is a research project, Gecko/Firefox is their browser. It's also a massive money sink. Firefox itself has zero income and yet keeping up with Google is fantastically expensive (even Microsoft decided to throw in the towel).

So they cut teams that a) weren't directly working on their core browser and b) doesn't make money for spending on their browser.

Re:Fastly hires entire Wasmtime team from Mozilla by nanagojo on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @04:00AM (#24905282)
Contradicts their announcement on new product focus https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2020/08/11/changing-world-chan...

And here is a 2013 post about the "next generation" engine (Servo) https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2013/04/03/mozilla-and-samsung...

> So they cut teams that a) weren't directly working on their core browser and b) doesn't make money for spending on their browser.

Exactly, that means they do not see any value in closing the gap with Chrome. Servo was this plan that launched years ago. See this paragraph from the above post from 2013

> Servo is an attempt to rebuild the Web browser from the ground up on modern hardware, rethinking old assumptions along the way. This means addressing the causes of security vulnerabilities while designing a platform that can fully utilize the performance of tomorrow’s massively parallel hardware to enable new and richer experiences on the Web.

Not to mention their threat response team got laid off

https://www.securityweek.com/mozilla-cybersecurity-staff-hit...

Re:Fastly hires entire Wasmtime team from Mozilla by hansjorg on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @04:27AM (#24905417)
Several parts of Servo have been incorporated into Firefox (Stylo, Webrender, Pathfinder and more).

I think Servo was branded as a research project pretty early on. That it would replace Firefox wasn't very realistic.

Re:Fastly hires entire Wasmtime team from Mozilla by nanagojo on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @04:36AM (#24905463)
Yes, however if Servo was stopped early on due to no "ROI" (like it is the case today). Then those very good improvements would have not been made.
Re:Fastly hires entire Wasmtime team from Mozilla by dblohm7 on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @01:52AM (#24904793)
As a Mozilla employee, I can say that this is a fairly accurate assessment.
Re:Fastly hires entire Wasmtime team from Mozilla by glandium on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @02:18AM (#24904891)
Except for the part about Firefox not making any money. Firefox is making most of the money.
Re:Fastly hires entire Wasmtime team from Mozilla by ChrisSD on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @02:28AM (#24904916)
It gets a fixed amount of money from Google for using them as the default search engine. But what I meant was Firefox has no means to actual generate an income in its own right. Mozilla have tried. The reactions have not been good.

The money from Google is practically a donation at this point. It's not exactly an altruistic one but it's not exactly a pure business transaction either given Firefox's current market share.

Re:Fastly hires entire Wasmtime team from Mozilla by vbezhenar on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @05:55AM (#24905860)
Is it even possible to donate money to Firefox development and not to greedy CEOs?
Re:Fastly hires entire Wasmtime team from Mozilla by ChrisSD on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @06:05AM (#24905916)
You can't donate to Mozilla Corp full stop. Besides which Firefox users are strongly opposed to "nags" in the browser as Mozilla have found. Even wikipedia, with it's massive reach and yearly nags, "only" makes ~$120 million. Firefox could never hope to reach anything like that from donations alone and it needs many times that number to keep pace with Google Chrome's practically unlimited funds.
Re:Fastly hires entire Wasmtime team from Mozilla by srtjstjsj on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @09:12AM (#24907051)
Send money to employees
Re:Fastly hires entire Wasmtime team from Mozilla by dblohm7 on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @02:25PM (#24910268)
> It gets a fixed amount of money from Google for using them as the default search engine

Your first bad assumption is that the amount of money is fixed.

Re:Fastly hires entire Wasmtime team from Mozilla by geektips on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @02:59AM (#24905019)
What will happen to this donation if the outcome of the anti-trust is against Google ?
Re:Fastly hires entire Wasmtime team from Mozilla by pmarin on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @04:50AM (#24905549)
Firefox is the reason why Google pours so many millions in Mozilla. Hardly a money sink.