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Re:Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account by whimsicalism on Monday October 26, 2020 @05:22PM (#24901602)
Britain said that they could go for a "herd immunity strategy", several European governments said that masks were not useful for ordinary people, claims that the virus was under control, even people saying "don't stop going to bars", entire governments deciding to stop releasing information about cases, etc., etc.

There was a whole lot that people didn't know, especially early. There were quite a few failures of communication and delays.

China was certainly communicating warnings about the virus by early January.

Re:Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account by sofixa on Sunday November 08, 2020 @08:14AM (#25025584)
> several European governments said that masks were not useful for ordinary people,

For the very simple reason that there weren't enough masks for the people that needed them ( medical personnel), and the last thing you wants in such a scenario is for the public to freak out and fight over the already non-existing stocks.

Plenty of governments were too slow to react ( with lockdowns/limitations, or planning), but to say all Western leaders failed is simply wrong.

Re:Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account by turkey99 on Monday October 26, 2020 @05:40PM (#24901802)
They were wrong, potentially and have adjusted their stance since.

They’re still poorly managing it because they lack decent information. I’d argue it’s the fault of the civil service that they’ve been crippling and obvious cronyism (e.g. Dido Harding) not equipped to provide decent information that they need for decision making.

Re:Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account by whimsicalism on Monday October 26, 2020 @05:44PM (#24901845)
> They were wrong, potentially and have adjusted their stance since.

Yes, and there is a period between where they realize they are wrong, where they reformulate their message and then communicate that publicly. What we're discussing here is a similar gap of 2-4 days between evidence of person-to-person spread and communication.

Meanwhile, we have no idea when the US president even first tested positive for covid.

Re:Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account by makomk on Monday October 26, 2020 @07:51PM (#24902959)
The British government was very upfront about the fact that it wasn't under control very early on. That honesty doesn't seem to have worked out very well for them politically - I'm pretty sure that being so upfront about it fuelled a lot of the speculation about herd immunity, which somehow seems to have outlasted the current Europe-wide practical demonstration that yes, lockdown fatigue is real no matter what the British press said at the time - but you certainly can't argue that they lied about it like China did.