not in my view, a person who knows neither java nor c. but i think the counterargument from the people in this thread would make would be something like:

i can write my C programs without ever thinking about java. it is irrelevant to me. however, C is very important for java since the JVM it is running on top of is written in C.

i think, personally, the outcome this type of thinking is that “therefore every java program is in fact just cruft on top of C” which personally as someone who does 80% of their job in SQL i am ill-equipped to object on java’s behalf.