‘Culture wars’ are fought by tiny minority

Re:‘Culture wars’ are fought by tiny minority – UK study by 908B64B197 on Monday October 26, 2020 @02:32PM (#24899460)

> As for affirmative action being an effort to keep out Asians...have you been to Harvard’s campus? There are many, many Asian students there. In fact, nearly one in five students at Harvard are of Asian descent. The idea that elite schools are purposely excluding Asians is absurd on its face. The people pushing the idea have an axe to grind and it usually isn’t actually in the interest of Asian-Americans.

Are there any elite school (so sourcing students from the same pool of applicants) that don't include race in their admission process? Would be interesting to compare the demographics.

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Re:‘Culture wars’ are fought by tiny minority – UK study by nsp on Monday October 26, 2020 @03:57PM (#24900601)

I believe it is illegal in california to consider race for public universities, so you could look at Caltech and Berkeley which fit most definitions of elite schools. Caltech is 48% Asian, while MIT is 25.7% for undergrad.

There is the in-state vs out of state tuition distinction, so it's not exactly the same pool as east coast universities.

Sources: https://registrar.caltech.edu/records/enrollment-statistics https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/massachusetts-instit....

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Re:‘Culture wars’ are fought by tiny minority – UK study by charlesu on Monday October 26, 2020 @07:42PM (#24902877)

> I believe it is illegal in california to consider race for public universities, so you could look at Caltech and Berkeley which fit most definitions of elite schools. Caltech is 48% Asian, while MIT is 25.7% for undergrad.

These are interesting stats but they don't actually mean anything unless you can prove that the applicant pools for Caltech and Berkeley are similar to that of MIT. It's entirely possible, that Caltech and Berkeley have a higher proportion of Asian applications. It's also possible that underrepresented minorities that could be admitted to Caltech or Berkeley pick Harvard or Princeton because they're more well-regarded and more diverse. I wouldn't be surprised. Elite schools compete for the same kids.

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Re:‘Culture wars’ are fought by tiny minority – UK study by 908B64B197 on Monday October 26, 2020 @09:51PM (#24903763)

Caltech and MIT sounds like an interesting example: They are both extremely highly ranked (systematically among the top 5 in the world) and engineering/science focused.

Considering their ranking I would be willing to bet their applicant pool might significantly overlap (seeing as they attract world wide talent).

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