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Re:25 Years In Speech Technology and I still don’t talk to m... by lm28469 on Monday October 26, 2020 @12:50PM (#24898208)
As soon as you see them for what they are it makes perfect sense. They're basically a proxy to google search with extra dumb features on top. Every single feature that isn't google search has been hard coded (map directions, setup alarms, &c.), as soon as you get out of the hard coded cases it's blatantly obvious these things are anything but "smart"

imho they're just used to give google/amazon a few more data points for their graphs

Re:25 Years In Speech Technology and I still don’t talk to m... by jjoonathan on Monday October 26, 2020 @02:05PM (#24899119)
Yeah, and that wouldn't be a problem if the discovery story wasn't dismal or the browsing story wasn't dismal, but it definitely is. On both counts.
Re:25 Years In Speech Technology and I still don’t talk to m... by tschwimmer on Monday October 26, 2020 @02:22PM (#24899307)
Discovery and browsing are not good on the assistant interface but I'd argue that's a constraint of voice vs visual. On a desktop/mobile, the screen holds the state so you can go back to previous entries, etc. Over voice, you mind holds the state which scales much much worse.
Re:25 Years In Speech Technology and I still don’t talk to m... by krrrh on Monday October 26, 2020 @02:59PM (#24899813)
To the credit of the Shortcuts team at Apple, being able to visually select and define certain phrases for commonly completed tasks is helpful in this regard, but I’d guess only a couple % of the user base is even aware that Siri Shortcuts are possible.
Re:25 Years In Speech Technology and I still don’t talk to m... by part1of2 on Monday October 26, 2020 @11:50PM (#24904337)
Is this just normal phone Siri or HomePod Siri?
Re:25 Years In Speech Technology and I still don’t talk to m... by cransallinf on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @09:22AM (#24907132)
Normal phone Siri. Not sure if it works for the HomePod
Re:25 Years In Speech Technology and I still don’t talk to m... by thomastjeffery on Monday October 26, 2020 @04:53PM (#24901255)
And this would be a much better situation if users could hardcode their own features and definitions.