Re:Vaccine hopes rise as Oxford jab prompts immune response ...
by wbl on Monday October 26, 2020 @10:17AM
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Do you have a credible source? I've heard these claims multiple times and they done seem to be borne out by events or supported by repudiable epidemiologist.
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Re:Vaccine hopes rise as Oxford jab prompts immune response ...
by krona on Monday October 26, 2020 @11:14AM
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Here is a summary of at least 6 articles on pre existing t-cell immunity. https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3563
Furthermore, I know of at least 3 leading statisticians that hypothesized (very early on) that the variance of infection trends pointed to pre-existing immunity in various populations. The evidence supporting this is mounting.
Re:Vaccine hopes rise as Oxford jab prompts immune response ...
by russholmes on Monday October 26, 2020 @04:28PM
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The BMJ is not a credible source, it is the Daily Mail of medical journals. The author of that article, Peter Doshi, has form:
"I think the first thing we to review is who is Peter Doshi? And why is he so insistent on getting this data?
Peter Doshi received his BA in anthropology from Brown University, MA in East Asian studies from Harvard University, and Ph.D. in history, anthropology, and science, technology and society from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Those would be fine credentials for someone who is going to teach history or anthropology."
https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/pete...
Re:Vaccine hopes rise as Oxford jab prompts immune response ...
by krona on Monday October 26, 2020 @05:59PM
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I didn't cite the BMJ as the source, but nice try. The sources include Cell and Nature, but unfortunately for you that might mean having to read something in order to discount it, which you seem unprepared for.
Re:Vaccine hopes rise as Oxford jab prompts immune response ...
by russholmes on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @09:50AM
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There is a more balanced review article on herd immunity here:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02948-4
Re:Vaccine hopes rise as Oxford jab prompts immune response ...
by krona on Monday October 26, 2020 @06:07PM
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For the lazy (cited 556 times as of now): https://www.cell.com/cell/pdf/S0092-8674(20)30610-3.pdf
Re:Vaccine hopes rise as Oxford jab prompts immune response ...
by wbl on Monday October 26, 2020 @08:41PM
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That paper looks at 40 people and has no idea what the clinical correlates of the non-spike responses are because no one has any idea. You cannot take that paper and say that a substantial factor of people are protected due to preexisting responses.