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Re:I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers by easton on Sunday October 25, 2020 @07:42PM (#24891226)
Microsoft has always required (on x86, ARM is different) that for Windows logo certification Secure Boot must be able to be disabled, you must trust Microsoft’s CA and the third-party CA that they run (and that Red Hat/Ubuntu/Debian use to sign their builds) and that the user must be able to load their own keys. This means that any x86 device sold with UEFI Secure Boot can still boot Linux (or if it can’t, it’s not Secure Boot’s fault).

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/informatio...

Re:I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers by hda2 on Sunday October 25, 2020 @10:03PM (#24892151)
That used to be the case for x86, but not anymore: https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-to-stop-linux-older-...
Re:I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers by easton on Sunday October 25, 2020 @10:10PM (#24892195)
No, it's the other way around. It originally was as the article described, and once Microsoft probably got scared about antitrust (or thought about how the heck they'd buy hardware for Azure and not be able to load their own secure boot keys), they changed the procedure. As of 2015-ish, the information I linked applies (for x86).