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Re:Nearly 12M Square Feet of Vacant Office Space in S.F by sidlls on Sunday October 25, 2020 @06:58PM (#24890847)
I think the shift to remote work is temporary. There will almost certainly be a relatively large crash in commercial real estate, but it will recover, probably within a year or maybe two.
Re:Nearly 12M Square Feet of Vacant Office Space in S.F by Daishiman on Sunday October 25, 2020 @08:12PM (#24891421)
A permanent shift of even 5-10% of the workforce to permanent remote (which _will_ happen; far too many people with negotiating power have realized that this is an option now) will drastically alter commercial real estate.
Re:Nearly 12M Square Feet of Vacant Office Space in S.F by staticassertion on Sunday October 25, 2020 @08:45PM (#24891652)
It doesn't seem that way. Technology is making it more and more possible, companies like Dropbox, which have never supported remote work, are even shifting over.
Re:Nearly 12M Square Feet of Vacant Office Space in S.F by sidlls on Sunday October 25, 2020 @10:57PM (#24892452)
I'd bet within a year or maybe two tops that the vast majority of "permanent" remote companies will have reverted to be mostly or entirely on-premise again. One or two might last, but most won't.
Re:Nearly 12M Square Feet of Vacant Office Space in S.F by smartbit on Monday October 26, 2020 @12:07AM (#24892742)
Why do certain companies succeed as a remote company (Gitlab comes to mind) and others wouldn’t? I think you’re probably right, but I’d like to understand. Will working from home force a change in management style?

To compensate for lack of socialization in the office, I notice that companies like Gitlab organise corporate gatherings were all employees can meet in person. Open Source projects teams meet at (the fringe of) Fosdem and probably at their yearly conference a second time.

Re:Nearly 12M Square Feet of Vacant Office Space in S.F by bradleyjg on Monday October 26, 2020 @09:07AM (#24895725)
My guess is two primary factors:

1) size Non-linear diseconomies of scale mean that all other things held equal smaller companies are more likely to be able to pull it off than larger companies

2) first mover / selection I’d guess that there’s a relatively small fraction of employees that can be competitively productive in an indefinite WFH scenario. Companies that were always remote first and got there before everyone else were able to pick off these outliers. Companies trying to convert to it have the luck of the draw and further as the market saturates everyone will have a harder time chasing after these few.

Re:Nearly 12M Square Feet of Vacant Office Space in S.F by staticassertion on Monday October 26, 2020 @12:04AM (#24892731)
Maybe. If the property values completely collapse and they can get cheaper leases, I could see it, but that's sort of an after the fact issue.
Re:Nearly 12M Square Feet of Vacant Office Space in S.F by lostlogin on Sunday October 25, 2020 @08:45PM (#24891651)
> but it will recover, probably within a year or maybe two.

Doesn’t this require the pandemic to be gone? I hope it is, but that’s one hell of a condition.

Re:Nearly 12M Square Feet of Vacant Office Space in S.F by kelnos on Monday October 26, 2020 @04:49AM (#24894032)
If the pandemic isn't under control within a year or two, I think a commercial real estate collapse will be just one thing in a long list of problems.
Re:Nearly 12M Square Feet of Vacant Office Space in S.F by beowulfey on Monday October 26, 2020 @07:48AM (#24895086)
I don’t think so. Being able to offload that capital expense is huge. I have to imagine many companies will decide to just keep it that way.