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Re:Apple, Google and a Deal That Controls the Internet by polote on Sunday October 25, 2020 @02:47PM (#24888773)
I disagree with you

There is probably going to be another search player willing to pay to be the default on Apple, with the increase of usage, due to being the default, they will make more money, with more money they will be able to improve their service faster.

Unless search quality is critical for Apple, which would be surprising seeing the search quality of Siri

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Re:Apple, Google and a Deal That Controls the Internet by treis on Sunday October 25, 2020 @03:07PM (#24888964)
I'm surprised by how many people are ok with this sort of pay to play. The search engine (or any other tech) that wins in the market should be the one best at being a search engine. Not the one willing to pay Apple the most money.
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Re:Apple, Google and a Deal That Controls the Internet by edogg on Sunday October 25, 2020 @03:17PM (#24889057)
It’s just the default - if another search engine is compelling people are free to switch
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Re:Apple, Google and a Deal That Controls the Internet by kinkrtyavimoodh on Sunday October 25, 2020 @08:36PM (#24891584)
If it doesn't matter that it's 'just the default' why is the DoJ so upset about Google paying to be the default?

You can't simultaneously argue that being the default is irrelevant and that it's bad to pay to be the default.

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Re:Apple, Google and a Deal That Controls the Internet by edogg on Sunday October 25, 2020 @08:52PM (#24891700)
i'm not arguing that it's bad to pay to be the default. If the default service is worse than another people will switch to the other service. People install all kinds of apps on their phones, they can switch the default search engine too.
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Re:Apple, Google and a Deal That Controls the Internet by whimsicalism on Sunday October 25, 2020 @04:01PM (#24889424)
"just the default" seems to diminish the enormous importance of defaults.

changing "just the default" on organ donation to presumed consent w/ family veto, for instance, would essentially end all organ supply issues in the nation.

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Re:Apple, Google and a Deal That Controls the Internet by ClumsyPilot on Sunday October 25, 2020 @10:04PM (#24892152)
You are pedaling a fantasy that has been proven false by thousands of peer reviewed studies.
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Re:Apple, Google and a Deal That Controls the Internet by edogg on Monday October 26, 2020 @11:24AM (#24897156)
I would be interested in reading one of the studies in which the default was set to an inferior product and people stayed with the default despite there being a superior competitor and nearly zero effort required to switch.
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Re:Apple, Google and a Deal That Controls the Internet by ffggvv on Sunday October 25, 2020 @02:49PM (#24888793)
not just money but data. the more data they get the better their search results get. and the better their results get the more money they get in a loop. meaning a startup can’t compete due to the sheer amount of data google has
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