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Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by ldarby on Saturday October 24, 2020 @06:12PM (#24882309)
> That really depends on the jurisdiction and context.

No it doesn't. If you haven't legitimately obtained Taylor Swift's Shake it Off, you can't argue the copy you made with youtube-dl is a permitted personal copy, in the US or anywhere with copyright laws.

If you did pay for it, then yes you can argue it's a permitted copy (just not in the UK, which has stricter copyright laws).

(this is mostly a copy paste of this comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24882280).

Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by Reelin on Saturday October 24, 2020 @06:21PM (#24882357)
>> That really depends on the jurisdiction and context.

> If you haven't legitimately obtained ...

I'm well aware and never claimed otherwise. I very clearly stated that it depends on the context. (It's right there in the text you quoted!)

I was responding specifically to your previous claim that "Copying something, without distribution, is still violating copyright." which was overly broad for the reasons I specified.

Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by ldarby on Saturday October 24, 2020 @06:30PM (#24882418)
Yeah, sorry I knew it was overly broad and should have been more specific. But it was in response to your completely wrong assertion that violating it requires redistribution. I think we're done here.
Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by ldarby on Sunday October 25, 2020 @11:05AM (#24886805)
> your completely wrong assertion

Oops, apologies Reelin I wasn't paying attention to who said what, that was feanaro who was wrong.

Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by feanaro on Sunday October 25, 2020 @09:46AM (#24886212)
> If you haven't legitimately obtained Taylor Swift's Shake it Off

Obtaining Taylor Swift's Shake it Off from a public YouTube video without watching ads is a legitimate way of obtaining it. That is exactly the point.

Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by ldarby on Sunday October 25, 2020 @10:02AM (#24886329)
You are just wrong. Please go learn about copyright. Then you might understand why this takedown happened.
Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by feanaro on Sunday October 25, 2020 @01:40PM (#24888190)
I like think you are wrong and I have presented my case previously, to which you haven't responded. Nothing in copyright law itself can force you to watch ads while downloading a public video. I am completely sure this is the case in my own jurisdiction. If you want, I would be curious to hear your argument about why you think it does in yours.

This takedown happened because DMCA is a broken, frequently exploited law which allows for illegitimate takedown requests, which you must abide by or risk exposing yourself to legal damage for no reason at all.

Re:YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA by ldarby on Sunday October 25, 2020 @06:13PM (#24890459)
> to which you haven't responded.

Where? I responded here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24881656

I can only repeat what's there.