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Re:Show HN: Perfect Pitch Ear Training by cubano on Friday October 23, 2020 @07:37PM (#24875557)
Tts very possible that the song IS a half-step off as much modern rock (not so sure about pop) music is deliberately tuned a half-step down in order to either...

1. help the singer hit "higher notes".

2. sound "heavier" and just that "bit off" that half-step down tuning gives.

In conjunction with "drop-D" tuning (pulling the low E-string down a full step in order to give a "deeper", more heavy tonality), this gives much of modern "heavy rock" heavier feel.

My first encounter with half-step down tuning was, I believe, Motley Crue's Too Fast For Love album, where I beleive Mick Mars used both tunings in order to use a beer bottle for full chord slides (dropping the low-E allows barre chords, the staple of rock music, to be played using just one finger or, in Mick's case, one beer bottle) and that exceptionally low "drop-C#" (remember, we dropped the low-E down a step and a half to C#) drone growl that gave that album an exceptionally hard feel.

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Re:Show HN: Perfect Pitch Ear Training by oriolid on Saturday October 24, 2020 @06:26AM (#24878247)
So, is the idea that you don't actually hear that the song is in E (or some other guitar friendly key), but recognize that it's based on open strings on guitar and because of that you just assume it's that key instead of guitar being tuned down?
Re:Show HN: Perfect Pitch Ear Training by cubano on Thursday October 29, 2020 @01:17PM (#24932781)
Yes...absolutely.

I can easily say that in the 100's of rock songs that are tuned a half-step down (the entire Guns N Roses catalog for one quick example) and thus lend themselves to keys like G# and D# instead of A and E, that I have almost never encountered a song in G# or D# that were not using half-step down tuning.