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Re:Show HN: Perfect Pitch Ear Training by powersnail on Friday October 23, 2020 @05:17PM (#24874291)
That's because you are using a guitar, which is not perfectly in tune no matter how you tune it.

For an equal temperament instrument (like a midi keyboard), transcription would be seamless.

For a fretless instrument, transcription can be made seamless, if the player is good at intonation.

However, the timbre of the instrument can still be a little different for each key (e.g. open strings vs fingered notes), but that's a nuance on instrument rather than transcription per se.

Re:Show HN: Perfect Pitch Ear Training by necubi on Friday October 23, 2020 @06:17PM (#24874880)
At least on violin the different strings have slightly different timbres, as do different fingerings. Playing a G4 as 3rd finger on the D string will not sound the same as playing it in third position on the G string even with very precise intonation.
Re:Show HN: Perfect Pitch Ear Training by jdashg on Friday October 23, 2020 @05:37PM (#24874505)
Sound recording, reproduction, and even instrument resonance are usually not a perfectly flat EQ also, so transposing up or down can hit different frequency-dependent distortions.
Re:Show HN: Perfect Pitch Ear Training by sergeykish on Friday October 23, 2020 @05:25PM (#24874364)
Transposing with a capo should preserve it exactly.
Re:Show HN: Perfect Pitch Ear Training by NLips on Saturday October 24, 2020 @03:54AM (#24877667)
That’s not quite correct. To perfectly preserve, you’d also need to change the string thickness, tension and weight, which may involve a change of materials, and may not even be possible to retain proportionality between strings. You’d have to change the body of the guitar as well.
Re:Show HN: Perfect Pitch Ear Training by sergeykish on Saturday October 24, 2020 @06:24AM (#24878231)
Would guitar with a capo on fifth fret (and tuned) have bigger errors than ukulele?
Re:Show HN: Perfect Pitch Ear Training by NLips on Saturday October 24, 2020 @08:04AM (#24878658)
I have no idea which is further from a purely pitch adjusted version of the original! The key (no pun intended) takeaway is that virtually all instruments sound different in each key, and just playing higher will sound different to eg recording and adjusting the pitch digitally (or analog-ly).
Re:Show HN: Perfect Pitch Ear Training by sergeykish on Saturday October 24, 2020 @01:51PM (#24880777)
Oh, you are about timbre. Sure capo can't change that.

> That's because you are using a guitar, which is not perfectly in tune no matter how you tune it.

I've though powersnail point is about different shapes and your comment is about True Temperament guitar [1], [2].

Do you think timbre is the reason we notice pitch changes? And we would not notice transposition if it was pure sine? I am sure going to test it [3] and will add pure sine instrument.

[1] https://truetemperament.com/

[2] https://strandbergguitars.com/true-temperament/

[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24875740