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Re:PHP 8: Before and After by throw_m239339 on Friday October 23, 2020 @03:38AM (#24866932)
> You can’t build websites with Java

The (popular) horrors that are Symfony, Laravel, Doctrine and co were all inspired by Java Web frameworks and ORM.

Re:PHP 8: Before and After by mschuster91 on Friday October 23, 2020 @04:07AM (#24867084)
I for one am happy I don't have to manually write database persistence layers any more.
Re:PHP 8: Before and After by TheDoctor0 on Friday October 23, 2020 @04:12AM (#24867102)
Spring was first MVC framework, but Laravel in PHP and Django in Python were inspired by Ruby on Rails.
Re:PHP 8: Before and After by JimDabell on Friday October 23, 2020 @05:04AM (#24867368)
Django wasn’t inspired by Ruby on Rails. They are roughly the same age, but Django was made public a little later than Rails was.
Re:PHP 8: Before and After by antod on Friday October 23, 2020 @07:08AM (#24868196)
For first MVC, you didn't mean Struts rather than Spring? Even then I have a vague feeling there were earlier ones.
Re:PHP 8: Before and After by throw_m239339 on Friday October 23, 2020 @04:28AM (#24867189)
Laravel was inspired by ASP MVC, which itself took inspiration from Spring, not Ruby on Rails.