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Re:Uber Drivers Sue Company over Pressure to Support Prop 22 by thereisnospork on Friday October 23, 2020 @01:52AM (#24866396)
>not having Uber isn't going to cause me to die

Drunk drivers tend not to only kill themselves. I'd also like to point out that your argument for 'personal responsibility' has a lot of similarities with the 'abortions would stop if people just exercised abstinence' argument. The flaw is the same: people don't act responsibly[0] and others suffer for it[1].

>They can achieve this responsibility through, for instance, basic income, unemployment benefits or a social safety net.

Those would be reasonable approaches but instead CA seems more interested in hacking a massively useful service into unprofitably. It's akin to pushing mass transit by bulldozing highways instead of building subways.

[0] A lot can be written about why people don't, but its demonstrable that lowering the barrier to alternatives decreases irresponsible behavior.

[1] If you consider abortion and/or drunk driving to be social ills.

Re:Uber Drivers Sue Company over Pressure to Support Prop 22 by arcticbull on Friday October 23, 2020 @02:30PM (#24872395)
> Drunk drivers tend not to only kill themselves. I'd also like to point out that your argument for 'personal responsibility' has a lot of similarities with the 'abortions would stop if people just exercised abstinence' argument. The flaw is the same: people don't act responsibly[0] and others suffer for it[1].

I will very much give you this one, and that's the first thought I had as I was writing up my post. Still not entirely sure how to reconcile that tbh, and I tried to encapsulate that in "I do think having Uber or Lyft is strictly better."