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Re:When you tell Chrome to wipe private data it spares Googl... by karaterobot on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @11:10AM (#24838215)
The only thing I notice about Firefox is that some sites don't seem to support it very well. For example, I can't log in to U.S. Bank with Firefox, or successfully place an order on Doordash, but both sites work fine in Chrome.

Until recently, I had thought that browser compatibility issues were not much of a thing anymore.

It's still not worth running Chrome all the time. I only use it to complete those discrete tasks, then it's back to Firefox.

Re:When you tell Chrome to wipe private data it spares Googl... by whywhywhywhy on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @11:17AM (#24838304)
Not sure anyone else's experience but every time I bring up supporting browsers other than Chrome I just get sarcasm at best and belligerence at worst from 90% of engineers.

It's usually down to the remaining 10% to pick up the rest of the pieces.

It's extremely frustrating to hear this attitude as someone who was doing front-end dev in the IE6 era.

Re:When you tell Chrome to wipe private data it spares Googl... by ticmasta on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @11:45AM (#24838713)
I'm probably tilting at windmills, but I develop in Firefox, then spend the extra effort to make it work in Chrome for the few areas where behaviour is different. I tend to build stuff for smaller audiences of enterprise-oriented users though; not sure if this would be appropriate for massive consumer plays.
Re:When you tell Chrome to wipe private data it spares Googl... by shadowgovt on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @11:35AM (#24838567)
> from 90% of engineers

That's about the right ratio to expect, since less than 10% of browser sessions appear to be Firefox on average.

The major difference between this era and the IE6 era is that Microsoft wasn't willing to play ball with standards. With few exceptions, Mozilla and Google are implementing to the same standards and specifications; problem is, Chrome's a better implementation, for speed and stability, in the average case and the corner case.

They have both more resources to throw at the problem and more access to data to proactively discover issues.

It is, unfortunately, a situation where the playing field is "fair" (in the sense that there's a uniform standard) and one player is just trouncing the alternative.

Re:When you tell Chrome to wipe private data it spares Googl... by ticmasta on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @11:47AM (#24838748)
>> Mozilla and Google are implementing to the same standards and specifications; problem is, Chrome's a better implementation, for speed and stability, in the average case and the corner case.

This is not the interpretation I make of the current landscape. Google is SETTING standards that directly benefit themselves, just like MS did; Chrome uses it's market share to push in directions that benefit Google before they benefit end users.

Re:When you tell Chrome to wipe private data it spares Googl... by kspacewalk2 on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @11:45AM (#24838727)
>problem is, Chrome's a better implementation, for speed and stability, in the average case and the corner case.

Corner case maybe, but average case? No way. This is a historic perspective, maybe, but it's no longer valid in 2020.

Re:When you tell Chrome to wipe private data it spares Googl... by shadowgovt on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @12:29PM (#24839332)
https://venturebeat.com/2020/01/15/browser-benchmark-battle-...

Chrome isn't consistently the best of all browsers tested, but it beats FF more often than it doesn't.

Re:When you tell Chrome to wipe private data it spares Googl... by Zak on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @11:52AM (#24838830)
I have noticed a number of times that when sites are broken, it seems to be that anti-tracking settings, which are stronger by default on Firefox are a factor. I suspect the involvement of cross-site tracking systems like recaptcha in ill-conceived attempts to reduce automated attacks.
Re:When you tell Chrome to wipe private data it spares Googl... by scaryclam on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @11:27AM (#24838458)
It may fall of deaf ears, but you should complain to the site owners that they are broken. If enough complaints come through (and others are likely to be complaining as most issues I see are not FF issues, the code is actually broken for everything except chrome), then they'll be forced to fix it, or get better developers.
Re:When you tell Chrome to wipe private data it spares Googl... by shadowgovt on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @12:35PM (#24839413)
It's not a bad idea, but to be realistic about the expectations, here's what happens.

1) site owner receives complaint

2) if offered, site owner looks up the user agent

3) site owner finds that the user agent matches one that is sub-10% of their traffic and samples the complaint signal accordingly

High-volume sites don't actually optimize for 100% of potential users (because the marginal value for one more user is low). If it's a low-volume site that happens to attract FF users for some reason, complaining is likelier to succeed.

Re:When you tell Chrome to wipe private data it spares Googl... by jerry80 on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @05:43PM (#24842649)
I use US Bank from Firefox all the time. It works fine for me.

Usually when I come across a broken website, it has more to do with my ad blocker and privacy extensions than the fact I'm using Firefox.

Re:When you tell Chrome to wipe private data it spares Googl... by yjftsjthsd-h on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @11:49AM (#24838782)
Worth asking: Does it help if you use an extension to toggle your user agent?