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Re:The pandemic has eroded democracy and respect for human r... by BurningFrog on Sunday October 18, 2020 @09:23AM (#24817705)
This is an epic side track, but the argument you could make is that Germany's choice at the time was between Nazi-ism and Stalin controlled communism. Liberal democracy was a distant third option that had no real chance.

We know the Nazi option turned out very very bad. But it's possible a German/Soviet Stalinist block would have been even worse.

Re:The pandemic has eroded democracy and respect for human r... by watwut on Sunday October 18, 2020 @10:10AM (#24817997)
No, this is absolutely not true.

First, the second most probable outcome was non-nazi military dictatorship that almost happened.

Second, the other largest party was strogly pro democracy. They were called social democrats and were definitely not communist. Trying to cast them as such is just repeating nazi propaganda.

Re:The pandemic has eroded democracy and respect for human r... by BurningFrog on Sunday October 18, 2020 @05:29PM (#24821259)
You're assuming election results would have continued to be respected.

Neither communists or nazis had any interest in that.

Re:The pandemic has eroded democracy and respect for human r... by whimsicalism on Sunday October 18, 2020 @11:12AM (#24818412)
> We know the Nazi option turned out very very bad. But it's possible a German/Soviet Stalinist block would have been even worse.

Say what you want about Soviet-caused famine, but they never shipped people in trains to gas chambers for the express purpose of exterminating them. Pretty contrived and callous to say that choosing the Nazis might have been the right choice.

Re:The pandemic has eroded democracy and respect for human r... by BurningFrog on Sunday October 18, 2020 @09:05PM (#24822506)
Stalin did plenty of genocides of his own, and murdered far more of his own citizens than Hitler did.

If your criteria is that the genocide has to be conducted with a similar train system etc as the Holocaust, you're probably not serious about this discussion.

Re:The pandemic has eroded democracy and respect for human r... by whimsicalism on Monday October 19, 2020 @11:23AM (#24827168)
> Stalin did plenty of genocides of his own, and murdered far more of his own citizens than Hitler did.

Hm, yes - I would like to see the evidence that Stalin directly, intentionally murdered more than 11 million of his citizens.

You're really going out of your way to justify voting for the Nazis, huh.

If you're just going to go ahead and conflate the Holodomor and Holocaust as basically the same thing, then it's not really worth continuing the conversation.