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Re:Fighting for the right to repair your own stuff by zepto on Saturday October 17, 2020 @02:59PM (#24812272)
Perhaps we should add - once a device has been modified or repaired, the manufacturer is indemnified against all consequences relating to its use.

See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24810868

Re:Fighting for the right to repair your own stuff by simion314 on Saturday October 17, 2020 @03:09PM (#24812352)
There are laws that are forcing the manufacturer to explain why me changing the mirror on a car would void my warranty of the engine. And is fair, if I changed something in the engine and the engine got destroyed because of it they will not have to pay anything. Is it impossible that 1 guy could abuse this system , yes it is possible, should be screw everyone else because of this possibility instead of finding a way to prevent the abuse? sure we should do this instead of screwing everyone and by "coincidence" making more money for the companies that are against right to repair.
Re:Fighting for the right to repair your own stuff by shagie on Saturday October 17, 2020 @11:39PM (#24815363)
This is true for cars - but not farm equipment.
Re:Fighting for the right to repair your own stuff by zepto on Saturday October 17, 2020 @03:17PM (#24812405)
It’s really not clear what you are trying to say here.
Re:Fighting for the right to repair your own stuff by simion314 on Saturday October 17, 2020 @03:23PM (#24812449)
We have already in most countries laws for warranty. My warranty is not just voided because I opened my laptop and cleared the dust and it is a good thing.
Re:Fighting for the right to repair your own stuff by zepto on Saturday October 17, 2020 @04:13PM (#24812880)
Ok, but the right to repair goes beyond just opening the laptop and clearing dust.

Your warranty should be voided and the manufacturer should no longer be liable if you make unauthorized repairs.

Re:Fighting for the right to repair your own stuff by rasz on Saturday October 17, 2020 @05:25PM (#24813508)
Read Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. This is why car manufacturers cant pull this type of shit https://www.mclarenlife.com/threads/psa-mclaren-is-trying-to...
Re:Fighting for the right to repair your own stuff by zepto on Saturday October 17, 2020 @05:32PM (#24813556)
So what?

That’s a piece of legislation about cars.

It doesn’t apply to anything else, nor should it.

Re:Fighting for the right to repair your own stuff by simion314 on Saturday October 17, 2020 @06:44PM (#24814037)
There are similar laws for electronics, at least in EU, you need to have a good reason to void my warranty, if I say upgraded the 512Gb SSD with a bigger one and then the keyboard broke you just need to put an effort and invent some plausible reason before you void my warranty.

Though let's be honest, most people that end up in third party repair shops are there because the warranty expired already and for example Apple charged them almost the full price of the device to have it fixed.

Re:Fighting for the right to repair your own stuff by zepto on Sunday October 18, 2020 @04:14PM (#24820755)
“Apple charged them almost the full price of the device to have it fixed.”

What kind of repair are you talking about?

Re:Fighting for the right to repair your own stuff by rasz on Saturday October 17, 2020 @05:43PM (#24813635)
and by amazing sheer coincidence the main topic, and the poster you try to argue with both talk about CARS.
Re:Fighting for the right to repair your own stuff by zepto on Saturday October 17, 2020 @06:34PM (#24813976)
So what - we’re talking about the more general right to repair. The original posting also talks about Apple.

If you want to talk about things that only apply to cars, this isn’t a very useful conversation to be having on Hacker News.

If you want to explain how this law would be applied in a more general way, that might help.