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Re:Using all-Apple Thunderbolt hardware to kill my MacBook by wlesieutre on Saturday October 17, 2020 @11:31AM (#24810703)
I was just listening to some downloaded podcast backlog, and one of the episodes was Accidental Tech Podcast where they spent a while discussing the merits of a desktop versus a docked laptop.

And the main thing they complained about wasn’t performance, it was how much MacBooks like to crash in this arrangement. Get an iMac and an old laptop instead for when you need to be mobile, at least those will work.

It’s been what, four years now since thunderbolt only MBP, and still not fixed.

I don’t have any thunderbolt accessories (just a DisplayPort screen) and I used to get “sleep wake failures” at least once a week when it was new. That one at least has improved.

Re:Using all-Apple Thunderbolt hardware to kill my MacBook by Eric_WVGG on Saturday October 17, 2020 @12:19PM (#24811061)
This is a situation that I expect to get much better under the Apple silicon Macs. Under the current situation, Apple is writing drivers for hardware they did not design, and switching between discrete and integrated GPUs has been a flaky issue going all the way back to G4 PowerBooks. A lot of this complexity is going to just evaporate.

Incidentally, I was also using a Thunderbolt Display with a 2016 usb-c MacBook for about three years, it was similarly flakey. Switched to an LG 5k (found an inexpensive refurb) a while back and 95% of the problems went away.

Re:Using all-Apple Thunderbolt hardware to kill my MacBook by whatever1 on Sunday October 18, 2020 @10:02AM (#24817941)
In Windows a restart makes everything work properly. But it is a pain, specially in work setups where you return to your desk from a meeting and you want to plug-in your laptop to the Thunderbolt dock and then immediately start working.

Now I have come to terms. After a meeting I save everything and shutdown my machine. I connect to the dock and then boot.

Re:Using all-Apple Thunderbolt hardware to kill my MacBook by 908B64B197 on Monday October 19, 2020 @10:19AM (#24826574)
Something I don't understand:

Surfaces have a magnetic charging port that doubles as a dock and it... just works?

Re:Using all-Apple Thunderbolt hardware to kill my MacBook by wlesieutre on Monday October 19, 2020 @05:28PM (#24831226)
USB-C hubs work better on Apple’s devices than Thunderbolt if you want an apples to apples comparison, but they can’t do as much. Surface just doesn’t offer Thunderbolt.
Re:Using all-Apple Thunderbolt hardware to kill my MacBook by jasonlotito on Saturday October 17, 2020 @12:24PM (#24811096)
> Get an iMac

The problem is you end up paying for a crappy monitor. So you are stuck either looking at a Mac Mini, or going all the way up to a Mac Pro. There is no middle ground.

Re:Using all-Apple Thunderbolt hardware to kill my MacBook by coldtea on Saturday October 17, 2020 @01:21PM (#24811510)
>The problem is you end up paying for a crappy monitor

Huh? It's one of the best monitors out there...

Re:Using all-Apple Thunderbolt hardware to kill my MacBook by plorkyeran on Saturday October 17, 2020 @03:36PM (#24812531)
If anything the main problem with the imac is that you're forced to pay for a very good monitor even if that's not what you'd like to spend your money on.
Re:Using all-Apple Thunderbolt hardware to kill my MacBook by whatever1 on Sunday October 18, 2020 @10:04AM (#24817963)
In Windows/Linux world we have been craving for a 5k/27" monitor for years so that we don't have to deal with non-integer scaling.
Re:Using all-Apple Thunderbolt hardware to kill my MacBook by josteink on Saturday October 17, 2020 @01:03PM (#24811384)
There’s the whole X86 arena of middle ground.

Most people don’t need a Mac.

Re:Using all-Apple Thunderbolt hardware to kill my MacBook by wlesieutre on Saturday October 17, 2020 @01:21PM (#24811515)
Well yeah, but for context the ATP podcast is hosted by Mac/iOS developers, so he was looking at his Mac options specifically
Re:Using all-Apple Thunderbolt hardware to kill my MacBook by sroussey on Saturday October 17, 2020 @01:04PM (#24811390)
I love the iMac 27 monitor. Curious what is not to like? I prefer it over the LG Ultrafine.