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Re:How to Hide from a Drone by motohagiography on Saturday October 17, 2020 @09:37AM (#24809880)
The idea that we all live as future fugitives now seems like something worth changing. If your plan is to hide, does it really matter how well? The best way to defeat drones is to engage in culture and policy making, and to vote.

The next best way is to use RF to triangulate their C2 location and either jam it or destroy it.

"Hide." Kids today, no valour.

Re:How to Hide from a Drone by 0xdeadb00f on Saturday October 17, 2020 @11:31AM (#24810706)
I have no faith in what my vote can do in regards to things like this.

Paying attention doesn't do much. If the government wants to pass something, especially in the name of national security, it will get passed.

Re:How to Hide from a Drone by jjones2 on Saturday October 17, 2020 @12:58PM (#24811331)
And to top it off, Hillary literally put the idea on the table that it would be just fine to drone strike journalist Julian Assange: https://archive.vn/DrLRO

So no, zero faith for things like laws to keep the government in check.

Re:How to Hide from a Drone by takinola on Saturday October 17, 2020 @02:41PM (#24812139)
I would take this claim with a giant grain of salt. Assange was in an European city not on a farm in a middle eastern country. Ethics aside, this would be very difficult to operationalize even if it was seriously considered.
Re:How to Hide from a Drone by jjones2 on Sunday October 18, 2020 @06:02AM (#24816702)
You can take it with whatever grain you wish, but it doesn't change the fact that the government will throw all rules out the window when they want to get their way.

A quote: “We came, we saw, he died!” she exclaimed."

- Hillary on the murder of Colonel Qaddafi

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/libya-isis-hi...

(A NYT sourced article, just for you)

Re:How to Hide from a Drone by uselesscynicism on Saturday October 17, 2020 @12:33PM (#24811155)
Then what? If you can't vote to get the change that you want, what's the alternative? Violent revolution and hoping that the new boss is better than the old boss?

I'm so tired of this kind of useless cynicism. Voting matters, especially at the local level. You can get involved in your party at local levels, too. How do you think all these politicians get into the political class to begin with, in free societies?

Or should we overthrow our democratically elected government, because you believe cynically there's no point in voting, they're going to do whatever they want anyway, and install a dictatorship or Party and hope that we get a benevolent one?

Or are you suggesting that the Socialist Utopia is right around the bend, if we all just give up on voting and... I don't know, what's the point of your comment?

Re:How to Hide from a Drone by crocodiletears on Saturday October 17, 2020 @01:01PM (#24811362)
It's not useless cynicism, it's a sober approach. Understanding that the influence of politicians is delimited by their knowledge, the as well as monied, and bureaucratic interests.

I vote in every election I can, national to local. But ultimately you have to understand that in most cases, unless you're willing to dedicate your life to political advocacy (an exhausting route filled with small corruptions, traps of necessity that threaten your principals, and unpleasant people) you're choosing to adjust the angle of the rudder within a certain margin, not the trajectory or shape of the ship.

Re:How to Hide from a Drone by prepend on Saturday October 17, 2020 @12:49PM (#24811239)
I think that I see a lot of “convenient delusions” posted.

Here’s my current theory...

I think people want to be seen as virtuous. Stuff is bad. People want positive change. Either they don’t know what to do or making change is too hard. So they say that change is impossible.

Based on the really high rates of obesity, I think more people know what to do, but it’s hard, and they don’t do it. I know what I should do (eat less, exercise) but I don’t.

Re:How to Hide from a Drone by 0xdeadb00f on Saturday October 17, 2020 @11:23PM (#24815298)
I don't deny that voting matters. And I still vote for those who share my ideals.

But my point is that voting isn't everything - the government can do whatever they want in the name of national security. Which is an obvious problem, but something that they can scare monger people into agreeing with.

Re:How to Hide from a Drone by _spduchamp on Saturday October 17, 2020 @01:48PM (#24811729)
#1 Pursue electoral reform to ensure you are democratically represented. Elections can't change policy for the long term without a proportionally representative democracy.
Re:How to Hide from a Drone by fake-name on Saturday October 17, 2020 @09:56AM (#24809993)
> The next best way is to use RF to triangulate their C2 location and either jam it or destroy it.

That doesn't do jack when the drone is autonomous.

Re:How to Hide from a Drone by hamiltonkibbe on Saturday October 17, 2020 @12:05PM (#24810965)
If it's autonomous you can skip the triangulation step. The drone and C2 are co-located.
Re:How to Hide from a Drone by motohagiography on Saturday October 17, 2020 @02:19PM (#24811979)
Agreed. Autonomous just means free range spare parts.